1 00:00:05,150 --> 00:00:02,810 what kind of experiments are taking 2 00:00:07,970 --> 00:00:05,160 place in your neck of the woods 3 00:00:10,370 --> 00:00:07,980 what is happening underground in the 4 00:00:12,290 --> 00:00:10,380 mountains behind your subdivision 5 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:12,300 could there be 6 00:00:18,910 --> 00:00:15,360 illegal unacknowledged black budget 7 00:00:22,189 --> 00:00:18,920 projects related to UFO and UAP 8 00:00:24,050 --> 00:00:22,199 operations taking place right under our 9 00:00:26,509 --> 00:00:24,060 noses 10 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:26,519 behind our homes 11 00:00:31,790 --> 00:00:28,320 in the mountains that we use for 12 00:00:34,549 --> 00:00:31,800 trailheads and walking our dogs 13 00:00:37,490 --> 00:00:34,559 well if you're in certain parts of Utah 14 00:00:39,470 --> 00:00:37,500 the answer is yes and the answer may be 15 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:39,480 yes no matter where you are 16 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:44,399 on today's podcast we have elevated Josh 17 00:00:50,930 --> 00:00:48,960 who had an amazing remarkable experience 18 00:00:52,670 --> 00:00:50,940 witnessing something 19 00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:52,680 which changed 20 00:00:57,770 --> 00:00:55,199 and opened him up in a way something 21 00:00:58,910 --> 00:00:57,780 that elevated his Consciousness to a new 22 00:01:04,630 --> 00:00:58,920 level 23 00:01:07,510 --> 00:01:04,640 and he has sent me some interesting and 24 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:07,520 curiosity inducing photos 25 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:10,740 addresses and locations which appear to 26 00:01:17,690 --> 00:01:13,920 be underground entrances or facilities 27 00:01:20,450 --> 00:01:17,700 he spoke with me at length before the 28 00:01:23,149 --> 00:01:20,460 podcast and made it clear that he is 29 00:01:26,450 --> 00:01:23,159 somewhat concerned for his safety 30 00:01:29,030 --> 00:01:26,460 elevated Josh is a hiker and Mountaineer 31 00:01:32,450 --> 00:01:29,040 who goes into the mountains which are my 32 00:01:35,090 --> 00:01:32,460 old stomping grounds I love Salt Lake 33 00:01:37,550 --> 00:01:35,100 City and I love the Wasatch Front and he 34 00:01:40,190 --> 00:01:37,560 goes to all the best Canyons many of 35 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:40,200 which I know intimately 36 00:01:47,330 --> 00:01:43,439 including Ferguson Canyon the rabbit 37 00:01:51,590 --> 00:01:47,340 hole of UFO High strangeness in Utah is 38 00:01:54,710 --> 00:01:51,600 long and deep but Utah provides a 39 00:01:55,730 --> 00:01:54,720 promising New Direction for paranormal 40 00:01:58,429 --> 00:01:55,740 study 41 00:02:01,130 --> 00:01:58,439 the U.N abasin of Utah stands on its own 42 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:01,140 with high strangeness being an almost 43 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:03,360 nightly occurrence 44 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:06,000 and I can speak from experience that 45 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:08,160 when it comes to the base camp at space 46 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:11,039 Wolf research in the uuna Basin of Utah 47 00:02:16,490 --> 00:02:13,560 you'd be hard-pressed not to see 48 00:02:19,250 --> 00:02:16,500 something eventually and wait until you 49 00:02:21,770 --> 00:02:19,260 hear what elevated Josh has seen in and 50 00:02:25,250 --> 00:02:21,780 around Salt Lake City and really quick 51 00:02:28,369 --> 00:02:25,260 before we do if you have not subscribed 52 00:02:31,309 --> 00:02:28,379 to Hero paranormal on YouTube please go 53 00:02:33,890 --> 00:02:31,319 over to YouTube look for hero paranormal 54 00:02:36,110 --> 00:02:33,900 like share and subscribe 55 00:02:39,290 --> 00:02:36,120 because although I will most likely 56 00:02:41,089 --> 00:02:39,300 never be monetized on YouTube that's one 57 00:02:43,369 --> 00:02:41,099 way that I can 58 00:02:45,050 --> 00:02:43,379 have a little help breaking through the 59 00:02:48,650 --> 00:02:45,060 algorithm and at least people can hear 60 00:02:51,890 --> 00:02:48,660 the podcast also go to your social media 61 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00:04:12,530 --> 00:04:09,229 Blast Off on a strange Rabbit Hole of an 77 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:12,540 episode of the hyper anomalous esoteric 78 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:16,320 research organization podcast AKA hero 79 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:19,199 paranormal broadcasting from just south 80 00:04:24,050 --> 00:04:21,479 of the old Bigelow Ranch in the uina 81 00:04:26,270 --> 00:04:24,060 Basin of Utah my name is Ryan the 82 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:26,280 anomalous ambassador of the airwaves 83 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:29,759 bringing you a mysterious tunnel-filled 84 00:04:35,930 --> 00:04:33,120 episode today delving into the rabbit 85 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:35,940 hole of underground Utah and anomalies 86 00:04:43,010 --> 00:04:39,120 in the sky along the Wasatch Front with 87 00:04:46,370 --> 00:04:43,020 no one other than elevated Josh Josh is 88 00:04:48,350 --> 00:04:46,380 a researcher Explorer and adventurer who 89 00:04:50,570 --> 00:04:48,360 is right at home in the Wasatch 90 00:04:54,409 --> 00:04:50,580 mountains of Utah 91 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:54,419 he's been researching a large UFO that 92 00:05:00,290 --> 00:04:56,639 he saw over Twin Peaks mountain in Salt 93 00:05:01,850 --> 00:05:00,300 Lake in January of 2018 and possibly the 94 00:05:05,150 --> 00:05:01,860 most interesting part is it was 95 00:05:08,510 --> 00:05:05,160 accompanied by a number of Blackhawks 96 00:05:11,030 --> 00:05:08,520 keep in mind this took place in broad 97 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:11,040 daylight in front of a city of 2 million 98 00:05:15,469 --> 00:05:13,320 people hundreds if not thousands of 99 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:15,479 people have seen the things in the sky 100 00:05:20,570 --> 00:05:17,520 over Utah and hopefully we can get to 101 00:05:22,430 --> 00:05:20,580 the bottom of what is taking place not 102 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:22,440 only is this a potential Mass sighting 103 00:05:26,749 --> 00:05:24,960 it's a huge story and something we hope 104 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:26,759 to get to the bottom of 105 00:05:32,930 --> 00:05:30,240 elevated Josh welcome to the podcast 106 00:05:35,350 --> 00:05:32,940 hey man how's it going oh man I'm 107 00:05:39,050 --> 00:05:35,360 excited I'm super excited to talk to you 108 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:39,060 uh I love all things High strangeness 109 00:05:45,529 --> 00:05:42,720 and Utah and especially given the most 110 00:05:49,969 --> 00:05:45,539 recent information that we've kind of 111 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:49,979 been discussing off air this is uh going 112 00:05:54,650 --> 00:05:51,600 to be an interesting week because I 113 00:05:57,409 --> 00:05:54,660 can't wait to just delve into this and 114 00:06:00,529 --> 00:05:57,419 what's the easiest way to delve into 115 00:06:02,330 --> 00:06:00,539 this Josh would you like to go into your 116 00:06:05,390 --> 00:06:02,340 experiences accounts or what you've 117 00:06:07,129 --> 00:06:05,400 found uh over the course of your time 118 00:06:10,010 --> 00:06:07,139 there in Utah 119 00:06:11,749 --> 00:06:10,020 yeah Utah is definitely as far as hot 120 00:06:14,090 --> 00:06:11,759 spots go around the world I I'd have to 121 00:06:16,909 --> 00:06:14,100 say that Utah is one of the capitals as 122 00:06:19,010 --> 00:06:16,919 far as weird stuff that goes on I mean 123 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:19,020 all across the state you have locations 124 00:06:21,770 --> 00:06:20,340 everywhere I mean everyone knows about 125 00:06:24,590 --> 00:06:21,780 skin walker Ranch you're down there 126 00:06:26,090 --> 00:06:24,600 obviously you know there's so many weird 127 00:06:28,670 --> 00:06:26,100 things that go on down here and we have 128 00:06:30,770 --> 00:06:28,680 the you on a basin um me personally I 129 00:06:34,189 --> 00:06:30,780 grew up in Salt Lake City the holiday 130 00:06:35,930 --> 00:06:34,199 area so it's right at the foot of the 131 00:06:38,689 --> 00:06:35,940 beautiful Wasatch mountains here we have 132 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:38,699 Mount Olympus Timpanogos Twin Peaks a 133 00:06:45,050 --> 00:06:42,080 huge range here of mountains that are 134 00:06:47,330 --> 00:06:45,060 relatively new on the geologic time time 135 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:47,340 frame so it's like a lot of the the uh 136 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:48,960 the granite and the crust that's been 137 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:51,720 pushed up here is I guess fresh in an 138 00:06:56,330 --> 00:06:53,520 Earthly perspective as compared to like 139 00:06:59,090 --> 00:06:56,340 let's say some of the mountain ranges on 140 00:07:00,890 --> 00:06:59,100 the East Coast for example so there's a 141 00:07:03,050 --> 00:07:00,900 lot of interesting geology here and 142 00:07:05,150 --> 00:07:03,060 personally in Salt Lake I've witnessed 143 00:07:07,129 --> 00:07:05,160 quite a few interesting things and heard 144 00:07:08,990 --> 00:07:07,139 quite a few stories just about the mount 145 00:07:12,650 --> 00:07:09,000 was right outside the city here in Salt 146 00:07:14,570 --> 00:07:12,660 Lake and the first I guess I was never a 147 00:07:17,170 --> 00:07:14,580 guy that was never a guy that really 148 00:07:19,550 --> 00:07:17,180 wasn't aliens or was into like 149 00:07:21,469 --> 00:07:19,560 paranormal stuff I was kind of just a 150 00:07:23,390 --> 00:07:21,479 regular you know 20 year old dude that 151 00:07:25,909 --> 00:07:23,400 kind of just wanted to do my thing you 152 00:07:29,689 --> 00:07:25,919 know talk to girls all that stuff and uh 153 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:29,699 in 2010 I was with my Dad we were 154 00:07:34,670 --> 00:07:32,880 cooking uh on the on our back like in 155 00:07:36,409 --> 00:07:34,680 our in our back kitchen there and we 156 00:07:38,089 --> 00:07:36,419 always fed these baby raccoons that 157 00:07:39,890 --> 00:07:38,099 would come out of the wetlands protected 158 00:07:43,129 --> 00:07:39,900 Wetland that was behind the house 159 00:07:45,409 --> 00:07:43,139 and so at night when it got dark I'd go 160 00:07:47,270 --> 00:07:45,419 out back because our patio was I don't 161 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:47,280 know give or take 15 feet above the 162 00:07:51,650 --> 00:07:49,680 ground so we could see directly into the 163 00:07:53,150 --> 00:07:51,660 trees so we either turned the light on 164 00:07:55,010 --> 00:07:53,160 or I'd get a flashlight and shine into 165 00:07:57,290 --> 00:07:55,020 the trees so we could see the uh the eye 166 00:07:58,850 --> 00:07:57,300 Shine from the raccoons there well 167 00:08:00,350 --> 00:07:58,860 tonight was a little different this this 168 00:08:01,670 --> 00:08:00,360 night was a little different because I 169 00:08:03,290 --> 00:08:01,680 walked out there and I was looking into 170 00:08:04,850 --> 00:08:03,300 the trees and it's like if you're in a 171 00:08:08,870 --> 00:08:04,860 dark room and somebody flips a light 172 00:08:10,430 --> 00:08:08,880 switch on that's what happened uh I it 173 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:10,440 was completely surprising I'd never 174 00:08:15,170 --> 00:08:11,940 obviously witnessed anything like this 175 00:08:17,390 --> 00:08:15,180 and so I look around I look up and to my 176 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:17,400 up above me to my left 177 00:08:23,150 --> 00:08:18,960 it's hard to tell anywhere from like 178 00:08:26,869 --> 00:08:23,160 maybe 20 to 50. feet above me was 10 to 179 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:26,879 12 foot diameter glowing orb that was 180 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:29,460 golden white colors I guess and it's 181 00:08:33,829 --> 00:08:31,680 hard to explain I had a feeling when it 182 00:08:37,490 --> 00:08:33,839 appeared above me at the time 183 00:08:39,649 --> 00:08:37,500 that I was not able to really describe 184 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:39,659 until I'd heard it later described by 185 00:08:44,810 --> 00:08:42,240 others years later and it was a feeling 186 00:08:47,329 --> 00:08:44,820 of it being inside my head like I I 187 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:47,339 don't know how to explain this but it 188 00:08:51,230 --> 00:08:49,200 was inside of me I felt a presence 189 00:08:52,730 --> 00:08:51,240 inside of me that was not me even though 190 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:52,740 I wasn't communicating it's like 191 00:08:56,210 --> 00:08:54,420 something bumped into my Consciousness 192 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:56,220 there and was like Hey you know I'm in 193 00:09:00,110 --> 00:08:58,560 here I'm paying attention to what you 194 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:00,120 know you're thinking and it was a really 195 00:09:05,090 --> 00:09:01,920 strange connection and I heard you know 196 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,100 in 2017 when the uh the Nimitz case came 197 00:09:09,829 --> 00:09:07,200 out and fravor and all these different 198 00:09:12,350 --> 00:09:09,839 accounts from the military had been 199 00:09:14,810 --> 00:09:12,360 starting to drip out that they had 200 00:09:16,070 --> 00:09:14,820 experienced phenomena with these crafts 201 00:09:17,810 --> 00:09:16,080 when they encountered them that was 202 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:17,820 along the same lines in the sense that 203 00:09:21,290 --> 00:09:19,680 the things knew what they were going to 204 00:09:22,610 --> 00:09:21,300 do before they did it so when they were 205 00:09:24,470 --> 00:09:22,620 hitting them with the targeting pods 206 00:09:26,329 --> 00:09:24,480 right before they did it these things 207 00:09:27,290 --> 00:09:26,339 were able to jam their radar Jam their 208 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:27,300 pods 209 00:09:31,310 --> 00:09:29,580 you know so essentially they weren't 210 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:31,320 able to Target these targets like they 211 00:09:35,389 --> 00:09:33,600 were supposed to and I that's the same 212 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:35,399 kind of phenomenon that I felt but I 213 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:37,140 didn't know at the time so I looked up 214 00:09:41,210 --> 00:09:39,600 at this thing felt that connection and 215 00:09:43,250 --> 00:09:41,220 it was getting off this light I don't 216 00:09:45,410 --> 00:09:43,260 know how to explain it it's Illuminating 217 00:09:48,110 --> 00:09:45,420 the area but there's not actually any 218 00:09:49,370 --> 00:09:48,120 physical light coming out of it and I 219 00:09:51,730 --> 00:09:49,380 don't know how to explain what that 220 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:51,740 looks like either it's such a strange 221 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:54,240 strange you know idea to have to 222 00:09:58,730 --> 00:09:56,160 interpret but this all happens in maybe 223 00:10:00,110 --> 00:09:58,740 10-15 seconds and I look up at it and 224 00:10:02,449 --> 00:10:00,120 those these things you know really 225 00:10:04,009 --> 00:10:02,459 quickly in my head and I call my dad I'm 226 00:10:06,350 --> 00:10:04,019 like Dad come out here and he's about 10 227 00:10:07,850 --> 00:10:06,360 feet away he has a camera on a tripod so 228 00:10:10,490 --> 00:10:07,860 he runs over 229 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:10,500 plops it down we look up at it and right 230 00:10:13,550 --> 00:10:12,000 as we point the camera up I don't know 231 00:10:17,030 --> 00:10:13,560 how to explain this there was like this 232 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:17,040 strange uh perception slip or maybe 233 00:10:22,430 --> 00:10:19,440 movement and whatever it was but it 234 00:10:25,070 --> 00:10:22,440 blinked backwards quite quickly like 235 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:25,080 it went from being a few feet away to 236 00:10:28,970 --> 00:10:27,120 being maybe a quarter mile away out in 237 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:28,980 the sky instantly as soon as I press 238 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:33,120 record it it did a box essentially up in 239 00:10:37,550 --> 00:10:34,500 the air so if you imagine you're looking 240 00:10:39,650 --> 00:10:37,560 up at it it does three left angle turns 241 00:10:41,630 --> 00:10:39,660 and then shoots up into the sky and for 242 00:10:44,930 --> 00:10:41,640 less than a second and a half and it was 243 00:10:46,610 --> 00:10:44,940 you know really really quick and uh that 244 00:10:48,370 --> 00:10:46,620 was the first experience I Ever Had It 245 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:48,380 Started leading me to 246 00:10:52,370 --> 00:10:50,160 essentially 247 00:10:54,170 --> 00:10:52,380 this huge Rabbit Hole of all these 248 00:10:56,389 --> 00:10:54,180 different topics that I had never even 249 00:10:59,329 --> 00:10:56,399 heard of or had interest in the past and 250 00:11:01,069 --> 00:10:59,339 a lot of it has to do with the way when 251 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:01,079 you experience things like this it 252 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:02,640 changes the way you look at things 253 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:04,620 because not only is everything that you 254 00:11:09,110 --> 00:11:07,200 know tipped upside down on its head when 255 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:09,120 you can't explain what you've seen but 256 00:11:12,350 --> 00:11:10,680 you know your beliefs get questioned it 257 00:11:14,810 --> 00:11:12,360 leads you it breaks you down in a lot of 258 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:14,820 ways is the best way to describe it and 259 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:17,519 I think that might be what the meaning 260 00:11:21,410 --> 00:11:19,680 is for some of these experiences for a 261 00:11:24,410 --> 00:11:21,420 lot of people I mean none of us have 262 00:11:26,449 --> 00:11:24,420 answers to what goes on with any 263 00:11:29,389 --> 00:11:26,459 paranormal phenomena whether it be you 264 00:11:31,610 --> 00:11:29,399 know ghost fairies UFOs all kinds of 265 00:11:33,949 --> 00:11:31,620 weird stuff out there we really don't 266 00:11:35,870 --> 00:11:33,959 have answers granted we haven't 267 00:11:37,910 --> 00:11:35,880 spent a lot of time or money researching 268 00:11:39,710 --> 00:11:37,920 these things you know the Paradigm is 269 00:11:42,190 --> 00:11:39,720 starting to change now which is good but 270 00:11:45,590 --> 00:11:42,200 a lot of these things aren't really 271 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:45,600 understood but I believe that the 272 00:11:50,329 --> 00:11:48,240 dripping into our consciousness of 273 00:11:52,910 --> 00:11:50,339 experiences like this has some kind of 274 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:52,920 effect because for me personally 275 00:11:57,889 --> 00:11:55,440 these this first experience is the one 276 00:12:00,710 --> 00:11:57,899 that really trans it transforms me 277 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:00,720 everything about me changed after that 278 00:12:06,650 --> 00:12:04,560 day like the questions the methods of 279 00:12:09,170 --> 00:12:06,660 approach that I had towards life the way 280 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:09,180 I looked at people everything had a 281 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:11,519 different meaning to it a more a more 282 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:14,880 positive meaning overall but it put a 283 00:12:18,650 --> 00:12:16,680 different meaning into life and showed 284 00:12:21,230 --> 00:12:18,660 me that the world's a lot weirder Than 285 00:12:24,530 --> 00:12:21,240 People agree the credit for and I think 286 00:12:26,690 --> 00:12:24,540 our history and a lot of the things that 287 00:12:29,449 --> 00:12:26,700 have been presented to us especially 288 00:12:30,650 --> 00:12:29,459 currently are not exactly as we 289 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:30,660 understand them 290 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:32,100 this is the best way to put it or 291 00:12:35,509 --> 00:12:34,320 they're not it things aren't what we 292 00:12:37,009 --> 00:12:35,519 think they are and I think we need to 293 00:12:39,949 --> 00:12:37,019 pay more attention to the stuff like 294 00:12:41,569 --> 00:12:39,959 this and stories like this that are 295 00:12:43,129 --> 00:12:41,579 coming out from people because I believe 296 00:12:45,050 --> 00:12:43,139 there's a there's a meaning I think 297 00:12:46,490 --> 00:12:45,060 there's a meaning of Shifting of 298 00:12:49,009 --> 00:12:46,500 Consciousness that's supposed to happen 299 00:12:52,629 --> 00:12:49,019 because for me personally it was so 300 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:52,639 direct intense in your face and kind of 301 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:55,920 mind splitting that I can't imagine any 302 00:12:59,870 --> 00:12:57,360 other reason for things like that 303 00:13:02,210 --> 00:12:59,880 popping up and whether I encountered 304 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:02,220 you know something that it was 305 00:13:06,050 --> 00:13:03,600 definitely conscious but whether or not 306 00:13:08,329 --> 00:13:06,060 it was actually nuts and bolts or it was 307 00:13:10,550 --> 00:13:08,339 a spiritual phenomena either way it had 308 00:13:13,550 --> 00:13:10,560 the same effect nothing those kinds of 309 00:13:15,470 --> 00:13:13,560 things are good for people but as as far 310 00:13:17,090 --> 00:13:15,480 as the reason that I contacted you 311 00:13:19,550 --> 00:13:17,100 personally in the first place is because 312 00:13:21,949 --> 00:13:19,560 I've heard about your research you know 313 00:13:22,790 --> 00:13:21,959 in this whole area with you in a basin 314 00:13:24,650 --> 00:13:22,800 and 315 00:13:26,870 --> 00:13:24,660 all the people you bring on your show 316 00:13:29,810 --> 00:13:26,880 I've heard a lot of good stuff about 317 00:13:31,490 --> 00:13:29,820 well my part of the world I guess that's 318 00:13:33,410 --> 00:13:31,500 really great because there's a lot that 319 00:13:35,329 --> 00:13:33,420 goes on in our backyard so I contacted 320 00:13:38,690 --> 00:13:35,339 you because of the stuff I saw up here 321 00:13:41,810 --> 00:13:38,700 in 2018 I know quite a few other people 322 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:41,820 saw um I'll just get right into it I 323 00:13:45,170 --> 00:13:43,200 guess like I'm completely terrified 324 00:13:48,769 --> 00:13:45,180 about saying this on here as I explained 325 00:13:50,930 --> 00:13:48,779 to you earlier so forgive me guys if my 326 00:13:53,690 --> 00:13:50,940 voice is a little shaky and stuff but uh 327 00:13:57,590 --> 00:13:53,700 basically what happened is the date is 328 00:14:00,050 --> 00:13:57,600 January 13th 2018. uh put that out there 329 00:14:02,329 --> 00:14:00,060 clearly January 13th of 2018 so if 330 00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:02,339 anyone out there has seen this or 331 00:14:07,069 --> 00:14:04,800 experienced it on this date please 332 00:14:11,030 --> 00:14:07,079 raise your hand say something about it 333 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:11,040 anyway I'm sitting there with uh my 334 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:12,720 mother I'm I don't want to give an exact 335 00:14:18,829 --> 00:14:15,240 location as to where we are but we're a 336 00:14:20,930 --> 00:14:18,839 few miles away uh just west of Mount 337 00:14:24,050 --> 00:14:20,940 Olympus here in Salt Lake and so the 338 00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:24,060 entire Valley has quite a Grand View of 339 00:14:28,850 --> 00:14:26,459 this mountain that's gigantic it's bold 340 00:14:29,930 --> 00:14:28,860 you know these Rock faces like it's the 341 00:14:31,129 --> 00:14:29,940 first thing that catches your eye 342 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:31,139 anywhere in the valley when you're 343 00:14:35,210 --> 00:14:33,839 looking up or around and so essentially 344 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:35,220 we're sitting there and we're talking 345 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:38,220 about the sky at the time we were like I 346 00:14:41,629 --> 00:14:40,320 was really really big in the conspiracy 347 00:14:44,389 --> 00:14:41,639 stuff at the time 348 00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:44,399 when I was talking about Chemtrails and 349 00:14:48,590 --> 00:14:46,800 the the first thing this is this is over 350 00:14:49,970 --> 00:14:48,600 a five minute period of time I'd imagine 351 00:14:51,290 --> 00:14:49,980 that it's hard to really tell because 352 00:14:53,090 --> 00:14:51,300 there's so much that went on but the 353 00:14:54,889 --> 00:14:53,100 first thing that really popped up in my 354 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:54,899 head is we noticed a lot of planes going 355 00:14:58,850 --> 00:14:56,639 by overhead at the same time which was 356 00:15:01,310 --> 00:14:58,860 really strange like in the air here 357 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:01,320 maybe in any part of town it wants two 358 00:15:06,350 --> 00:15:03,839 three planes overhead at a time Max on 359 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:06,360 like a really busy day maybe but today 360 00:15:11,030 --> 00:15:09,120 we were counting like over ten I can't 361 00:15:13,850 --> 00:15:11,040 remember exactly how many it was like 12 362 00:15:16,670 --> 00:15:13,860 to 15. the transponder website that I 363 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:16,680 checked at the time to check to see you 364 00:15:20,569 --> 00:15:18,720 know what kind of the flights were going 365 00:15:22,970 --> 00:15:20,579 on in the area at the time didn't have 366 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:22,980 any of these flights marked on its mass 367 00:15:26,329 --> 00:15:24,480 which I found kind of weird and that 368 00:15:28,189 --> 00:15:26,339 alone doesn't mean anything 369 00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:28,199 but I checked this all later and we 370 00:15:31,490 --> 00:15:30,000 couldn't find any data for these flights 371 00:15:34,009 --> 00:15:31,500 which was strange so that's the first 372 00:15:36,170 --> 00:15:34,019 thing in the series of events that 373 00:15:37,610 --> 00:15:36,180 happened in those five minutes it kind 374 00:15:40,610 --> 00:15:37,620 of caught my attention and as we're 375 00:15:42,189 --> 00:15:40,620 noticing that we I see we don't hear 376 00:15:45,290 --> 00:15:42,199 what we see 377 00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:45,300 a string of I want to say anywhere from 378 00:15:49,550 --> 00:15:48,000 like 10 to 12 helicopters flying by 379 00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:49,560 overhead so we're looking at the 380 00:15:53,930 --> 00:15:52,500 mountain we're looking East from the 381 00:15:55,910 --> 00:15:53,940 West Side of the Mountain 382 00:15:59,150 --> 00:15:55,920 I mean these helicopters are coming from 383 00:16:01,329 --> 00:15:59,160 I would say that would be 384 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:01,339 it would be the 385 00:16:06,889 --> 00:16:04,560 north west side of us so they come 386 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:06,899 across and what was interesting is I 387 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:07,980 couldn't hear them that's the first 388 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:10,500 thing that blew my mind I know if 389 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:12,120 they're under 500 feet or right around 390 00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:14,399 500 feet where it's I think 391 00:16:17,930 --> 00:16:16,800 they were in the 500 to 1000 foot range 392 00:16:19,730 --> 00:16:17,940 you should have been able to hear those 393 00:16:21,290 --> 00:16:19,740 things 10 helicopters 12 helicopters 394 00:16:23,329 --> 00:16:21,300 going by 395 00:16:24,949 --> 00:16:23,339 that's loud there's no way that wouldn't 396 00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:24,959 have made a huge Rumble over the valley 397 00:16:28,670 --> 00:16:26,639 and the first thing I noticed is there 398 00:16:30,530 --> 00:16:28,680 wasn't really much of any sound coming 399 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:30,540 from these things so 400 00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:32,160 conspiracy mind the first thing that 401 00:16:35,870 --> 00:16:34,079 ticked me off is I'm like oh those those 402 00:16:38,329 --> 00:16:35,880 don't make noise those must be the same 403 00:16:40,069 --> 00:16:38,339 ones maybe that they talked about you 404 00:16:42,889 --> 00:16:40,079 know saw the raids in like what 2011 405 00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:42,899 when they talked about crashing that top 406 00:16:46,670 --> 00:16:44,639 secret helicopter into the wall the 407 00:16:48,110 --> 00:16:46,680 compounds um that's that's the first 408 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:48,120 thing I thought so I see these things 409 00:16:52,610 --> 00:16:50,160 coming over and we're watching them 410 00:16:55,730 --> 00:16:52,620 approach the mountain and if you view 411 00:16:58,370 --> 00:16:55,740 Mount Olympus from any anywhere in like 412 00:17:00,650 --> 00:16:58,380 the East bench area you're gonna see 413 00:17:03,650 --> 00:17:00,660 kind of like a little Twin Peak looking 414 00:17:06,770 --> 00:17:03,660 thing like an M Arc not Arch but an m to 415 00:17:09,169 --> 00:17:06,780 the uh to the peak there and these 416 00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:09,179 helicopters what they do is they if you 417 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:10,799 drought line straight through the peak 418 00:17:14,449 --> 00:17:12,480 cut the mountain in half they do a 419 00:17:15,890 --> 00:17:14,459 perfect circle so they line up and they 420 00:17:18,350 --> 00:17:15,900 start a circle over the top of the 421 00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:18,360 mountain and so they're doing this for a 422 00:17:24,409 --> 00:17:21,720 few seconds and one of these one this is 423 00:17:26,569 --> 00:17:24,419 insane one of these Blackhawks comes 424 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:26,579 back into the middle of the circle and 425 00:17:31,070 --> 00:17:29,100 at this point we had binoculars sitting 426 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:31,080 on my mother's coffee table I picked 427 00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:32,640 those up and it was looking at the 428 00:17:38,270 --> 00:17:35,280 situation through the binoculars this 429 00:17:41,150 --> 00:17:38,280 Black Hawk drops what looks to be that 430 00:17:45,289 --> 00:17:41,160 Droid that Vader uses to interrogate 431 00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:45,299 Luke in Star Wars down between the 432 00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:47,280 arches of the mountain or the peaks of 433 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:48,480 the mountain which was really strange 434 00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:50,160 and I couldn't really tell what it was 435 00:17:54,590 --> 00:17:52,080 what I was looking at but it looked like 436 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:54,600 that Droid from Star Wars it was a black 437 00:17:59,090 --> 00:17:56,760 ball with a little red looking dot on it 438 00:18:01,610 --> 00:17:59,100 dropping down between the Peaks that 439 00:18:04,010 --> 00:18:01,620 helicopter then I see another Ball come 440 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:04,020 up between out of the Peaks up into the 441 00:18:07,549 --> 00:18:05,520 helicopter and I couldn't really tell if 442 00:18:09,409 --> 00:18:07,559 it was going behind it or if it was like 443 00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:09,419 somehow going up into the helicopter 444 00:18:13,730 --> 00:18:12,240 from the bottom I it was impossible to 445 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:13,740 see because I didn't have the range on 446 00:18:18,650 --> 00:18:17,340 the binos but anyway that fear the 447 00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:18,660 second sphere goes back up in the 448 00:18:23,390 --> 00:18:20,400 helicopter it breaks back up into the 449 00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:23,400 circle that Circle then widens out so it 450 00:18:29,330 --> 00:18:25,440 gets to the point where it's surrounding 451 00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:29,340 both of these Peaks on an Olympus and as 452 00:18:33,169 --> 00:18:31,020 that happens and they finish widening 453 00:18:34,909 --> 00:18:33,179 the circle out if you take like if you 454 00:18:37,130 --> 00:18:34,919 look at a barbell weight 455 00:18:38,750 --> 00:18:37,140 on the ground you pick it up if you look 456 00:18:40,490 --> 00:18:38,760 at it in your hand and you turn it 457 00:18:42,049 --> 00:18:40,500 sideways so it's sitting vertically 458 00:18:45,169 --> 00:18:42,059 instead of horizontally 459 00:18:46,610 --> 00:18:45,179 that is what it is that is what appeared 460 00:18:50,210 --> 00:18:46,620 in the middle of the circle of 461 00:18:52,850 --> 00:18:50,220 helicopters so essentially a gigantic 462 00:18:54,890 --> 00:18:52,860 barbell weight it had a square top and a 463 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:54,900 square bottom they were both black there 464 00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:57,840 was a gray bar in the Middle where I 465 00:19:02,330 --> 00:18:59,520 like the hand grip would be on the 466 00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:02,340 barbell that part was gray the top and 467 00:19:07,850 --> 00:19:05,460 the bottom Square portions uh they were 468 00:19:10,190 --> 00:19:07,860 black as far as I could tell in very 469 00:19:14,270 --> 00:19:10,200 square like perfect squares and they had 470 00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:14,280 the top portion had this interesting Ray 471 00:19:18,049 --> 00:19:16,620 aspect coming out of it like if you look 472 00:19:20,029 --> 00:19:18,059 at the sun you see the Rays coming off 473 00:19:21,650 --> 00:19:20,039 the sun that's what I was seeing it was 474 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:21,660 like Rays coming out the top of this 475 00:19:25,789 --> 00:19:23,340 thing and almost like a Halo of light 476 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:25,799 around the top of it and we're watching 477 00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:27,840 this thing for a few seconds and as this 478 00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:29,340 thing appears and you know it just 479 00:19:34,730 --> 00:19:31,919 phases into this circle of helicopters 480 00:19:36,289 --> 00:19:34,740 and it had to have been I can't judge I 481 00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:36,299 was too far away but I want to say it 482 00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:39,360 was about at least 10 times the size of 483 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:40,799 each one of these Shoppers so if a 484 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:43,260 chopper is I don't know 12 to 16 feet 485 00:19:47,390 --> 00:19:45,780 something like that in height these this 486 00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:47,400 thing had to have been like a few 487 00:19:52,909 --> 00:19:50,640 hundred feet tall and in my opinion from 488 00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:52,919 where I saw it so the idea of something 489 00:19:57,950 --> 00:19:56,039 that big sitting there it just it blew 490 00:19:59,330 --> 00:19:57,960 my mind we me and my mom looked at each 491 00:20:02,029 --> 00:19:59,340 other and her neighbor was across the 492 00:20:03,409 --> 00:20:02,039 way and seeing it too we we've never 493 00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:03,419 seen anything like that I mean how do 494 00:20:06,289 --> 00:20:04,799 you explain something like that I 495 00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:06,299 immediately thought it would you know 496 00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:07,980 projection technology something along 497 00:20:12,110 --> 00:20:09,720 those lines but 498 00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:12,120 I had no idea so we were flabbergasted 499 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:14,640 we look at each other and the clouds in 500 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:16,320 that area there were a few clouds over 501 00:20:20,150 --> 00:20:17,760 the Peaks and it was interesting because 502 00:20:21,650 --> 00:20:20,160 this thing started moving south and as 503 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:21,660 it was moving south 504 00:20:26,690 --> 00:20:24,360 uh all the clouds around it started 505 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:26,700 turning orange and like 506 00:20:29,630 --> 00:20:27,960 I don't know how to explain the 507 00:20:31,310 --> 00:20:29,640 squiggling like making little 508 00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,320 caterpillar motions almost that's the 509 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:33,360 best way to describe it and it was only 510 00:20:37,549 --> 00:20:35,280 in like a localized area around this 511 00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:37,559 thing it wasn't like it wasn't the 512 00:20:42,049 --> 00:20:40,200 entire Sky it was just within you know a 513 00:20:44,450 --> 00:20:42,059 small radius like I'd say like a mile 514 00:20:46,970 --> 00:20:44,460 radius around this thing that these 515 00:20:49,130 --> 00:20:46,980 clouds were orange and we're noticing 516 00:20:51,470 --> 00:20:49,140 this too and as it starts moving south 517 00:20:54,289 --> 00:20:51,480 you know I I've heard this a lot of 518 00:20:55,850 --> 00:20:54,299 times too I got to take my my camera out 519 00:20:57,470 --> 00:20:55,860 as soon as I go to press the button the 520 00:21:00,049 --> 00:20:57,480 instant my phone touches the screen that 521 00:21:02,930 --> 00:21:00,059 thing phases up completely phases it out 522 00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:02,940 uh and the helicopters uh go back in 523 00:21:09,470 --> 00:21:06,960 line back towards the Northwest so 524 00:21:11,930 --> 00:21:09,480 Northwest to me that same direction as 525 00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:11,940 dugway uh it's dugway air base or The 526 00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:13,860 Proving Grounds um I've been out there 527 00:21:18,529 --> 00:21:15,600 quite a few times like you make a 528 00:21:21,049 --> 00:21:18,539 straight line from that direction down 529 00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:21,059 you you get right to the base and so 530 00:21:27,409 --> 00:21:24,660 whatever that was that day 531 00:21:29,810 --> 00:21:27,419 had to have been at first I thought it 532 00:21:32,570 --> 00:21:29,820 was projection technology but the all 533 00:21:35,450 --> 00:21:32,580 the other aspects and the phenomena that 534 00:21:37,610 --> 00:21:35,460 surrounded it uh you know included with 535 00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:37,620 the size of it and the way it moved I 536 00:21:41,570 --> 00:21:39,960 can't think that it would be anything 537 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:41,580 but 538 00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:43,440 some kind of technology that we're not 539 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:46,260 being told about and I'm not saying it's 540 00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:47,760 you know it doesn't have to always be an 541 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:49,260 alien thing it's it doesn't have to be 542 00:21:52,669 --> 00:21:50,520 nuts and bolts it could be a lot of 543 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:52,679 things but whatever that was was 544 00:21:57,289 --> 00:21:54,240 something that I know can probably 545 00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:57,299 benefit a lot of people uh if given the 546 00:22:00,770 --> 00:21:58,799 chance or if utilizing the correct way 547 00:22:02,510 --> 00:22:00,780 but my my issue with these situations 548 00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:02,520 and with what we're seeing with a lot of 549 00:22:05,570 --> 00:22:03,900 the technologies that we're hearing 550 00:22:08,090 --> 00:22:05,580 about nowadays but we're not being 551 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:08,100 presented any evidence of in the case of 552 00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:11,039 like you know gravitational UFOs and all 553 00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:12,240 the things that are being talked about 554 00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:15,120 in the news as far as the uaps go that 555 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,740 kind of Technology can be used for good 556 00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:19,200 and my issue is that it's being hidden 557 00:22:23,210 --> 00:22:21,480 from us and seemingly most likely 558 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:23,220 weaponized at this point if we're really 559 00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:25,620 talking about the government I mean 560 00:22:30,590 --> 00:22:28,559 at this point they've got a proven track 561 00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:30,600 record of just about doing anything they 562 00:22:33,529 --> 00:22:31,980 can to weaponize whatever they can get 563 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:33,539 their hands on so 564 00:22:38,510 --> 00:22:36,000 that's my problem with all this it's not 565 00:22:41,330 --> 00:22:38,520 you know aliens are great and all that 566 00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:41,340 but there's there really are hundreds of 567 00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:43,380 millions of lives that could be saved 568 00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,760 with the technologies that are being 569 00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:46,559 hidden from us and I know these things 570 00:22:52,250 --> 00:22:48,840 are going on I've seen it multiple times 571 00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:52,260 myself so it's I I want people to speak 572 00:22:57,529 --> 00:22:55,080 up more because the valley here at the 573 00:22:59,870 --> 00:22:57,539 time this happened had 574 00:23:01,730 --> 00:22:59,880 somewhere right around I think it's 1.5 575 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,740 2 million something like that we have 576 00:23:06,110 --> 00:23:03,600 over a million people on this Valley so 577 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:06,120 the the chances of Nobody seeing this in 578 00:23:12,350 --> 00:23:09,600 broad daylight on top of a peak in a 579 00:23:15,409 --> 00:23:12,360 busy City I mean like it's impossible 580 00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:15,419 Ryan so that's why that's why I wanted 581 00:23:20,270 --> 00:23:17,580 to talk to you because I I you're local 582 00:23:22,370 --> 00:23:20,280 you know I knew that there's probably 583 00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:22,380 people from this area that listen to 584 00:23:27,289 --> 00:23:24,600 your podcast uh which is great by the 585 00:23:28,970 --> 00:23:27,299 way but there's got to be people out 586 00:23:30,890 --> 00:23:28,980 there that have seen this and 587 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:30,900 I don't know what's going to happen from 588 00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:32,400 this I don't know if there's going to be 589 00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:33,900 any consequences I'm not trying to give 590 00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:35,580 away military secrets I'm not trying to 591 00:23:39,710 --> 00:23:37,320 piss anybody off but 592 00:23:41,810 --> 00:23:39,720 like if stuff like that is going on in 593 00:23:44,210 --> 00:23:41,820 the middle of the day in a busy City 594 00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:44,220 they had to have wanted people to see it 595 00:23:48,169 --> 00:23:45,960 at the same time which is the other side 596 00:23:50,270 --> 00:23:48,179 of this it's like you don't do four 597 00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:50,280 operations like this with secret 598 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:52,260 technology in the middle of the day 599 00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:54,720 without already knowing people are going 600 00:23:59,630 --> 00:23:56,820 to see it I mean there were no way 601 00:24:02,029 --> 00:23:59,640 trying to hide this and so that's that's 602 00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:02,039 where I'm having an issue it's like well 603 00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:04,620 are they really do they did they want to 604 00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,900 see us to see this and if so how come no 605 00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:08,880 one's talked about it because honestly 606 00:24:16,010 --> 00:24:11,880 the the looks I get from telling the 607 00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:16,020 story man like it sounds crazy when you 608 00:24:20,029 --> 00:24:18,240 when you say this to people and trying 609 00:24:22,970 --> 00:24:20,039 to tell it to people it's 610 00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:22,980 it's intimidating like because I I have 611 00:24:28,250 --> 00:24:25,860 yet to really have many people 612 00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:28,260 that have heard this and not immediately 613 00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:30,320 thought I was absolutely insane but 614 00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,700 that's kind of the idea right now is I 615 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:34,320 want to get it out there and I I really 616 00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:35,940 hope that we can figure out what this is 617 00:24:39,289 --> 00:24:37,380 because I've been doing as much as I can 618 00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:39,299 to get up there and get to those spots 619 00:24:42,830 --> 00:24:40,799 and try to figure out what's going on 620 00:24:45,049 --> 00:24:42,840 because it's bugged me for five years 621 00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:45,059 now and it was traumatizing to a point 622 00:24:49,610 --> 00:24:48,000 is that makes a lot of sense I've heard 623 00:24:52,010 --> 00:24:49,620 that from other people in the past that 624 00:24:54,350 --> 00:24:52,020 have had experiences that have kind of 625 00:24:56,270 --> 00:24:54,360 hit them the wrong way and that's what 626 00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:56,280 the second one felt like I've had good 627 00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:57,840 experiences with stuff I can't explain 628 00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:00,000 but this one was 629 00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,120 uh not not great and it was it didn't 630 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:05,039 feel good in a way like I felt like I 631 00:25:09,049 --> 00:25:06,480 was witnessing something that probably 632 00:25:12,049 --> 00:25:09,059 wasn't wasn't something that I wanted to 633 00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,059 see so in that case you know raise the 634 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:14,240 red flag about it 635 00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:18,360 man it is a super compelling I think 636 00:25:22,669 --> 00:25:20,159 it's a super compelling thing you 637 00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:22,679 witnessed and that experience is pretty 638 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:25,140 wild the the barbell and the way you 639 00:25:30,590 --> 00:25:27,840 explained it having the black ends the 640 00:25:32,510 --> 00:25:30,600 gray bar and then the the light kind of 641 00:25:35,210 --> 00:25:32,520 at the top of it 642 00:25:37,130 --> 00:25:35,220 um yeah I think that you know 643 00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:37,140 the fact that you mentioned it got 644 00:25:42,169 --> 00:25:40,260 inside your head is a great way to 645 00:25:43,789 --> 00:25:42,179 elaborate on your experience because I 646 00:25:47,210 --> 00:25:43,799 personally agree with you I think that 647 00:25:50,450 --> 00:25:47,220 these events have a way of changing us 648 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,460 in a way kind of opening us up most 649 00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:53,039 definitely uh yeah they like Elevate our 650 00:25:57,409 --> 00:25:55,860 Consciousness to a new level and 651 00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,419 um I think a paranormal tap on the 652 00:26:02,269 --> 00:25:59,520 shoulder is exactly what a lot of 653 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,279 humanity needs 654 00:26:07,310 --> 00:26:04,559 you are exactly right man you're exactly 655 00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:07,320 right about that yeah I totally agree I 656 00:26:11,930 --> 00:26:09,900 I really hope that you know with with 657 00:26:14,810 --> 00:26:11,940 everything that's going on right now as 658 00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:14,820 far as the news around UFOs goes and and 659 00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,360 uaps I mean a lot of the people uh that 660 00:26:22,669 --> 00:26:20,159 listen to your show will probably be up 661 00:26:24,529 --> 00:26:22,679 on this topic so I probably don't need 662 00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:24,539 to explain a lot of it but there's a lot 663 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,600 going on right now behind the scenes uh 664 00:26:32,330 --> 00:26:29,760 there's a lot going on in the news up 665 00:26:34,730 --> 00:26:32,340 front we got what 30 I think it's 32 666 00:26:37,549 --> 00:26:34,740 days away now we have the NASA hearing 667 00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:37,559 uh with uh with NASA you know the guys 668 00:26:40,490 --> 00:26:38,760 that always tell the truth they're going 669 00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:40,500 to come out and tell us an answer 670 00:26:45,169 --> 00:26:43,860 already UFO and UAP questions because uh 671 00:26:46,850 --> 00:26:45,179 well why wouldn't they tell us the truth 672 00:26:49,490 --> 00:26:46,860 right I mean I'm sure they'll give us 673 00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,500 all the information they know 674 00:26:53,149 --> 00:26:51,360 it's gonna be interesting I don't know 675 00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:53,159 it's going to be interesting there's a 676 00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,020 lot that's going on and I'm just hoping 677 00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,320 that uh all of this kind of shifts the 678 00:27:02,029 --> 00:27:00,240 Paradigm a little bit and this the 679 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,039 stigma is the main thing there's there's 680 00:27:06,529 --> 00:27:04,559 a huge stigma still around paranormal 681 00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:06,539 and UFO experiences and unexplainable 682 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:09,000 stuff and uh it would be really really 683 00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:11,520 cool if more people were turned on to it 684 00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:13,860 because on I think the way our brains 685 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:15,840 are built if you think about it we just 686 00:27:19,490 --> 00:27:17,340 a lot of us just want to live our lives 687 00:27:21,529 --> 00:27:19,500 trying to trying to see something that's 688 00:27:24,350 --> 00:27:21,539 going to make you restructure your whole 689 00:27:25,970 --> 00:27:24,360 belief system and what you think about 690 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,980 yourself and everything around you like 691 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,600 that's not something a lot of people 692 00:27:31,970 --> 00:27:30,240 really want to do on a daily basis and I 693 00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:31,980 didn't either a lot of people don't I 694 00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,760 know a lot of people that have 695 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:34,080 experienced things like this where it's 696 00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:36,480 just you know it just kind of changes 697 00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:38,940 them and shuts them out and that's what 698 00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:40,559 it did to me and it's it's positive for 699 00:27:44,510 --> 00:27:41,760 a lot of people 700 00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,520 um but these mountains man like Utah and 701 00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:46,559 Salt Lake especially there's so much 702 00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:48,120 strange stuff that goes on around here 703 00:27:53,450 --> 00:27:51,120 Mount Olympus besides the story I told 704 00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:53,460 you earlier there's a few months before 705 00:28:00,350 --> 00:27:57,600 that this this whole thing happens uh 706 00:28:02,149 --> 00:28:00,360 me and my family were viewing every 707 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,159 morning and I can't remember the dates 708 00:28:07,210 --> 00:28:04,320 on this I guess it would be from like I 709 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:07,220 guess it would be from like the end of 710 00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:11,520 October of 2018 to January of 2018. 711 00:28:15,169 --> 00:28:13,200 there were fairy lights all over the 712 00:28:17,210 --> 00:28:15,179 mountain before the sun came up so we'd 713 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,220 sit there some mornings 714 00:28:21,529 --> 00:28:19,440 and before the sun came up you'd see 715 00:28:23,390 --> 00:28:21,539 different kinds of lights on the 716 00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:23,400 mountain and usually you know I'd always 717 00:28:27,230 --> 00:28:24,720 try to explain this stuff away because 718 00:28:29,390 --> 00:28:27,240 the binoculars out look for climbers 719 00:28:32,029 --> 00:28:29,400 with headlamps all kinds of things that 720 00:28:33,950 --> 00:28:32,039 I could do to explain what we were 721 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,960 actually seeing but I could never figure 722 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:35,520 it out there weren't any Climbers on the 723 00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:36,960 mountain and we were seeing essentially 724 00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:39,120 fairy lights for months on end um I 725 00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:40,320 don't know why I never thought to like 726 00:28:42,769 --> 00:28:41,880 recording any of this either it's such a 727 00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:42,779 strange 728 00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:44,700 experience when you see this a lot of 729 00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,100 the time it's like you never have 730 00:28:51,529 --> 00:28:49,440 a lot of the time don't have the thought 731 00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,539 of recording it which is really strange 732 00:28:55,010 --> 00:28:53,520 my dad still got I can probably have my 733 00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:55,020 dad show you the first video the first 734 00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:56,460 thing we recorded but these other two 735 00:28:59,810 --> 00:28:58,200 experiences man like 736 00:29:02,390 --> 00:28:59,820 you're so out of your mind when you see 737 00:29:04,669 --> 00:29:02,400 it and it's hard to to ever 738 00:29:06,049 --> 00:29:04,679 record it I guess but these fairy lights 739 00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:06,059 man they were on the mountain for a 740 00:29:10,190 --> 00:29:07,799 couple months at a time they'd go up and 741 00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:10,200 around and do all these zigzags and 742 00:29:13,310 --> 00:29:11,580 different shapes on the mountain they'd 743 00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:13,320 be all like a rainbow of colors they'd 744 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:14,640 blink in and out 745 00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:17,640 uh I at the time this is five six years 746 00:29:22,730 --> 00:29:20,340 ago I'd heard about I've heard about 747 00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:22,740 Stephen Greer ce5 stuff and so I was 748 00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:23,940 like you know I wonder if I could just 749 00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:25,740 like think at him a little bit and tell 750 00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:27,240 him tell him to do different shapes and 751 00:29:29,690 --> 00:29:28,380 they'll do it and it worked a couple 752 00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:29,700 times like they'd go up above the 753 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:31,080 mountain and do like squares and 754 00:29:34,909 --> 00:29:33,240 sometimes they do tetrahedrons and 755 00:29:38,769 --> 00:29:34,919 different kinds of geometries which is 756 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,779 really interesting and I I think 757 00:29:42,169 --> 00:29:40,320 whoever's 758 00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,179 operating and doing things in this area 759 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:44,159 which I'd imagine is the military maybe 760 00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:45,419 we have some other 761 00:29:49,070 --> 00:29:46,980 projects going on some other 762 00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:49,080 unacknowledged stuff but whoever is 763 00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:51,480 operating in this area I think is very 764 00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:53,760 very familiar with the effects of the 765 00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:56,159 geology here because it has like a large 766 00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:57,260 large 767 00:30:02,570 --> 00:30:00,240 amount of quartz in these mountains like 768 00:30:04,130 --> 00:30:02,580 the quartz content and these rocks is 769 00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:04,140 insane man I mean I'm not a geologist 770 00:30:07,730 --> 00:30:05,820 but you can just go out there and see 771 00:30:09,409 --> 00:30:07,740 look at the courts and and The Rock and 772 00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:09,419 the granite and so I've heard and 773 00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:12,000 studied over the years about the 774 00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:16,020 different effects geologies can have uh 775 00:30:20,289 --> 00:30:17,880 in an area you know as far as Paranormal 776 00:30:23,690 --> 00:30:20,299 Activity goes and 777 00:30:26,330 --> 00:30:23,700 uh there's missing 4-1-1 David politis 778 00:30:28,669 --> 00:30:26,340 he made some points quite a while back 779 00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:28,679 about finding different patterns and 780 00:30:32,810 --> 00:30:31,500 disappearances and strange phenomena in 781 00:30:34,909 --> 00:30:32,820 these places where they were underground 782 00:30:37,610 --> 00:30:34,919 aquifers where there were high amounts 783 00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:37,620 of Courts uh Courtside on the Rock which 784 00:30:43,850 --> 00:30:40,140 is exactly what you have here so whoever 785 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:43,860 is up operating here knows that there's 786 00:30:48,769 --> 00:30:46,980 also something going on in the land here 787 00:30:50,269 --> 00:30:48,779 and probably not just here I mean in a 788 00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:50,279 ton of other places if they figured it 789 00:30:53,690 --> 00:30:51,659 out here they figured it out at other 790 00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:53,700 places but the interesting part of this 791 00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:55,260 and the reason that it's bugging me is 792 00:30:58,250 --> 00:30:56,220 because 793 00:31:00,110 --> 00:30:58,260 there the Mormon Church operates here 794 00:31:01,010 --> 00:31:00,120 too and they've you know they've dug 795 00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:01,020 their own 796 00:31:06,529 --> 00:31:04,440 vaults into uh Granite over here down in 797 00:31:08,990 --> 00:31:06,539 Draper I guess it would be the area of 798 00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:09,000 the city where the vault is above uh but 799 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:11,100 granite rock down here is their vault 800 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,960 and they supposedly you know they spent 801 00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:14,640 millions of dollars on it drilled this 802 00:31:19,549 --> 00:31:17,340 gigantic Vault it's big enough to hold a 803 00:31:21,289 --> 00:31:19,559 semi into the mountain and apparently 804 00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:21,299 what they're doing is storing geology 805 00:31:24,889 --> 00:31:23,340 and genealogical Records there and 806 00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:24,899 that's that's understandable but that's 807 00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:26,700 a lot of tunnel man for those records 808 00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:28,440 and they say they hold different 809 00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:30,179 religious artifacts and things like that 810 00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:32,340 but I'm starting to wonder if maybe 811 00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:33,960 there's something going on with the 812 00:31:37,370 --> 00:31:35,700 church in the military here because they 813 00:31:39,409 --> 00:31:37,380 both operate in these mountains and I 814 00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:39,419 can't imagine that with the tunnel 815 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,100 systems that we have in Salt Lake that 816 00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:43,200 there isn't some kind of agreement going 817 00:31:47,630 --> 00:31:45,779 on as well between the church and the 818 00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:47,640 military or some 819 00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:49,919 proxies or another from either one of 820 00:31:55,010 --> 00:31:53,039 these organizations because I have heard 821 00:31:57,409 --> 00:31:55,020 lots of stories from lots of people in 822 00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:57,419 the area different contractors that have 823 00:32:00,889 --> 00:31:58,799 told me different experiences they've 824 00:32:02,570 --> 00:32:00,899 had either up in the mountains I've 825 00:32:04,610 --> 00:32:02,580 heard I've heard of people that have 826 00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:04,620 been contractors digging the caves when 827 00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:07,080 the granite vaults were dug for the the 828 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:09,299 church down in Draper I've heard of 829 00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:10,980 people you know doing Plumbing work 830 00:32:15,289 --> 00:32:13,020 talking about tunnels underground in 831 00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:15,299 downtown Salt Lake City so if there's a 832 00:32:18,769 --> 00:32:17,100 network of tunnels down there I would 833 00:32:21,169 --> 00:32:18,779 imagine that network of tunnels probably 834 00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:21,179 stretches way farther than just downtown 835 00:32:24,830 --> 00:32:22,980 and you know if you're into the 836 00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:24,840 conspiracy world and everyone's heard 837 00:32:28,610 --> 00:32:26,700 about the Denver airport conspiracy 838 00:32:30,169 --> 00:32:28,620 theories and the the massive networks of 839 00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:30,179 tunnels that are supposed to be dug 840 00:32:34,970 --> 00:32:31,799 underneath the entirety of the U.S 841 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,980 continent which we can't prove but from 842 00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:36,720 a strategic point of view I wouldn't see 843 00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:38,340 any reason why they wouldn't do it it 844 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:40,260 would be a really smart idea uh 845 00:32:44,990 --> 00:32:41,760 strategically and for security 846 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:45,000 operational security so I'm I'm thinking 847 00:32:50,450 --> 00:32:47,279 that those tunnel systems 848 00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:50,460 also are tied in here as well but the 849 00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:52,260 only problem is is 850 00:32:55,490 --> 00:32:53,760 we don't know where the entrances are 851 00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:55,500 you know these things are guarded as far 852 00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:57,840 as we can tell everything is guarded and 853 00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:00,000 locked up from all the places that you 854 00:33:04,909 --> 00:33:02,580 could possibly conspicuously enter these 855 00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:04,919 tunnels so I think most of the entrances 856 00:33:07,789 --> 00:33:06,960 are probably underground here too and 857 00:33:09,889 --> 00:33:07,799 that's 858 00:33:11,450 --> 00:33:09,899 that leads you straight to dugway if I 859 00:33:12,769 --> 00:33:11,460 you know if you go by process of 860 00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:12,779 elimination like you got some 861 00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:15,480 underground tunnels buried in this area 862 00:33:19,370 --> 00:33:17,399 use for military stuff you know they're 863 00:33:21,529 --> 00:33:19,380 going to go the duck way and we've all 864 00:33:23,690 --> 00:33:21,539 heard the stories about them having 865 00:33:25,850 --> 00:33:23,700 possibly an underground base there which 866 00:33:27,409 --> 00:33:25,860 at this point I would not be surprised 867 00:33:28,250 --> 00:33:27,419 um I would bet my life on the fact that 868 00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,260 there's 869 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,720 a lot of secret stuff going on there so 870 00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:32,880 I'm starting to think maybe dugway's in 871 00:33:36,409 --> 00:33:35,340 the area 51 too man because I I didn't 872 00:33:39,169 --> 00:33:36,419 think that at first when I started 873 00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:39,179 researching but you know uh Alien Dave's 874 00:33:43,130 --> 00:33:41,399 a good one he's his stories are really 875 00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:43,140 interesting from over there and uh 876 00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:45,360 there's there's a lot that goes on and I 877 00:33:49,549 --> 00:33:48,000 think more work needs to be done to put 878 00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:49,559 all this stuff together because it's a 879 00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:51,000 really interesting story as far as an 880 00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:53,279 investigation goes but at the same time 881 00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:54,840 there's some good Bitcoins from all this 882 00:33:57,710 --> 00:33:56,279 because you know these kind of 883 00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,720 technologies that are being researched 884 00:34:02,029 --> 00:34:00,000 and possibly used need to be shared with 885 00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:02,039 us as a community as as a human 886 00:34:05,389 --> 00:34:04,380 population like you know there's tons of 887 00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:05,399 lies that could have been saved 888 00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:07,080 throughout probably from all these 889 00:34:10,669 --> 00:34:08,820 technologies that are behaved from us so 890 00:34:12,770 --> 00:34:10,679 hopefully with all the the push that's 891 00:34:15,230 --> 00:34:12,780 going on in the media and the news and 892 00:34:16,669 --> 00:34:15,240 in politics and with the culture with 893 00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:16,679 the way we're viewing things I'm hoping 894 00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:19,440 all this kind of coalesces into like a 895 00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:21,720 force that we can use at this right time 896 00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,419 to be able to do investigations like 897 00:34:29,930 --> 00:34:27,359 this and not have it be stigmatized 898 00:34:31,609 --> 00:34:29,940 criticized or have yourself killed like 899 00:34:33,470 --> 00:34:31,619 people have in the past I hate to say it 900 00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:33,480 but it's true like there's a lot of 901 00:34:36,589 --> 00:34:34,919 really crazy stuff that happens when 902 00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:36,599 people start talking about these kinds 903 00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:38,220 of things in the wrong way in the wrong 904 00:34:42,889 --> 00:34:39,419 proximity to certain government 905 00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:42,899 organizations and such so that's where I 906 00:34:46,849 --> 00:34:44,460 get a little nervous and I just want to 907 00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:46,859 say again for the record Doug way if you 908 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:49,919 guys ever hear this please please don't 909 00:34:55,490 --> 00:34:52,320 try to come after me I just am a guy 910 00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:55,500 that saw some stuff and I I do not I 911 00:34:58,849 --> 00:34:57,300 don't want to be persecuted for it I 912 00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:58,859 just want to know what was going on if 913 00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:02,160 you guys can just tell me that's cool if 914 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,200 not please don't send me to prison for 915 00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:05,760 this 916 00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:08,760 yeah it's interesting how dugway I'm 917 00:35:13,849 --> 00:35:11,160 glad that you mentioned you mentioned 918 00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:13,859 Doug way because you're right uh Alien 919 00:35:17,690 --> 00:35:15,599 Dave Rosenfeld that's been out there 920 00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:17,700 quite a bit and as you mentioned he has 921 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:20,640 had people visit him and and say you 922 00:35:25,630 --> 00:35:22,260 know can you please take these photos 923 00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:25,640 down off of you know your website Etc 924 00:35:30,589 --> 00:35:28,740 and you know as I'm sure you know the 925 00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:30,599 intelligence Community sees Utah Valley 926 00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,660 and Salt Lake City is perfect places to 927 00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:36,480 harvest for new agents for the CIA and 928 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:38,820 other intelligence organizations 929 00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:41,760 yeah that's what I've heard huh yeah and 930 00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:42,839 you've 931 00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:48,780 important which is you know as far as 932 00:35:54,410 --> 00:35:51,780 these felt bladed silent helicopters 933 00:35:57,609 --> 00:35:54,420 such as the ones purportedly used in the 934 00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:57,619 Osama Bin Laden raid they are very real 935 00:36:04,250 --> 00:36:01,440 yeah allegedly and I've been told they 936 00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:04,260 they're used more than most of us would 937 00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,440 imagine and getting back to your uh 938 00:36:12,349 --> 00:36:09,119 experience 939 00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:12,359 do you think it was related to some of 940 00:36:18,290 --> 00:36:16,079 these possible tunnels in the mountain 941 00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:18,300 and if so how 942 00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:20,520 yeah yeah most definitely 943 00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:22,020 um sorry there's a lot that's that's 944 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:23,640 going on in my head while explaining 945 00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:24,480 this 946 00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:26,760 um so if I'm not very clear linking the 947 00:36:33,230 --> 00:36:28,740 thoughts I apologize but 948 00:36:35,390 --> 00:36:33,240 yeah I do think so like when those 949 00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:35,400 helicopters first hit the mountain and 950 00:36:38,569 --> 00:36:37,079 whatever was dropped out of the bottom 951 00:36:40,190 --> 00:36:38,579 of that thing was dropped out of the 952 00:36:42,530 --> 00:36:40,200 bottom of that thing it had to have gone 953 00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:42,540 somewhere or it replaced something else 954 00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:45,480 so one went down another one came up I 955 00:36:48,829 --> 00:36:47,160 don't know if it was the same one or it 956 00:36:51,050 --> 00:36:48,839 was a separate object but either way 957 00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:51,060 something was lowered there 958 00:36:55,849 --> 00:36:53,220 so I don't know what kind of device it 959 00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,859 was I it's it's hard to tell but and I 960 00:36:59,089 --> 00:36:57,119 haven't really done a lot of thought 961 00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:59,099 about that part of it either because the 962 00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:00,480 whole you know 963 00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,520 the whole idea of all of it you know the 964 00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:04,320 the UFO itself kind of takes over 965 00:37:07,870 --> 00:37:06,060 everything but there's a lot of stuff 966 00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:07,880 that happened there that I even myself 967 00:37:12,349 --> 00:37:10,800 sometimes glance over but this ball this 968 00:37:14,089 --> 00:37:12,359 device I don't know man it had to have 969 00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,099 gone somewhere down 970 00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:16,800 into the canyon like and if you look at 971 00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:19,320 it from Google Earth the terrain there 972 00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:21,780 kind of dips down until I'd say like a 973 00:37:24,829 --> 00:37:23,099 diamond desk 974 00:37:28,730 --> 00:37:24,839 uh Canyon 975 00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:28,740 and so I I don't know specifically where 976 00:37:32,510 --> 00:37:30,660 exactly that was dropped I could I can 977 00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,520 see it from this PD perspective but on 978 00:37:38,210 --> 00:37:34,800 Google Earth it looks like that area is 979 00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:38,220 most behind the the first Peak is mostly 980 00:37:44,270 --> 00:37:41,820 uh mostly what looks to be saddlebacks 981 00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:44,280 and so it leads me to believe that 982 00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:47,460 somewhere in those that Greenery and 983 00:37:51,410 --> 00:37:49,140 those Meadows that are up there they 984 00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,420 dropped that thing or it replaced 985 00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:53,040 something else but I don't know what 986 00:37:56,510 --> 00:37:54,540 that was about I do know it was 987 00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,520 connected to the mountain in some way 988 00:38:01,730 --> 00:37:58,320 because it doesn't for me it doesn't 989 00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:01,740 make sense for them to have a Proving 990 00:38:07,130 --> 00:38:04,020 Ground that's the size of Rhode Island 991 00:38:08,569 --> 00:38:07,140 out here as a base all the space all 992 00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:08,579 this air space if they're if they're 993 00:38:11,150 --> 00:38:09,780 testing secret weapons if they're 994 00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:11,160 testing technology we don't know about 995 00:38:18,589 --> 00:38:15,420 for them to then parade a line of 996 00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:18,599 helicopters across this huge City on top 997 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:20,460 of the biggest mountain in the city and 998 00:38:25,310 --> 00:38:23,700 then you know have this gigantic freaky 999 00:38:27,230 --> 00:38:25,320 looking barbell sitting over the 1000 00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:27,240 mountain peak like it makes absolutely 1001 00:38:31,609 --> 00:38:30,060 no sense from an operational like 1002 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:31,619 security perspective or like an 1003 00:38:36,410 --> 00:38:33,540 intelligence perspective or a Black Ops 1004 00:38:38,510 --> 00:38:36,420 perspective it to me almost it seems 1005 00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:38,520 like a psyop kind of thing but nobody's 1006 00:38:42,349 --> 00:38:40,020 talked about it and that's that's what's 1007 00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,359 weird to me is it's it was presented 1008 00:38:46,609 --> 00:38:44,640 like hey look at this because 1009 00:38:48,109 --> 00:38:46,619 whatever happened up there they were 1010 00:38:50,210 --> 00:38:48,119 definitely not trying to keep it secret 1011 00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:50,220 so that leads me to believe it's some 1012 00:38:53,329 --> 00:38:51,900 kind of Psy off and if it's a psyop and 1013 00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,339 you guys need to tell us more because 1014 00:38:58,370 --> 00:38:55,680 this is broad daylight stuff and it's 1015 00:39:00,410 --> 00:38:58,380 somehow related to these mountains and I 1016 00:39:02,569 --> 00:39:00,420 it maybe could have been a projection 1017 00:39:04,670 --> 00:39:02,579 technology too like I said I don't know 1018 00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:04,680 anything I'm just going by what about 1019 00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:07,500 I've observed and you know it could be a 1020 00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,700 lot of different kind of Technologies 1021 00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:11,040 but whatever they're doing they're using 1022 00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:14,160 that area behind the Peaks and I've done 1023 00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:16,260 my best over the last 1024 00:39:19,849 --> 00:39:18,420 a month and a half since the weather's 1025 00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:19,859 been better and the snow has been melted 1026 00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:21,119 to get up there 1027 00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:23,820 this year and actually start looking at 1028 00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:25,800 the area and observing what's going on 1029 00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,560 in the area because I'm sure at this 1030 00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:30,240 point there's got to be tunnels that run 1031 00:39:35,089 --> 00:39:32,940 either under that mountain or up into it 1032 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:35,099 and I think there might actually you 1033 00:39:38,329 --> 00:39:36,720 know this is just a thought Theory but 1034 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,339 there might actually be something inside 1035 00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:40,800 the mountain there and 1036 00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:43,500 we'll see I guess I'm gonna do my best 1037 00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:45,480 to get up there I've observed from 1038 00:39:52,609 --> 00:39:48,240 Ferguson Canyon which is a canyon that 1039 00:39:54,530 --> 00:39:52,619 looks onto Olympus uh from the south and 1040 00:39:55,849 --> 00:39:54,540 so I've taken quite a few I can send you 1041 00:39:57,530 --> 00:39:55,859 the pictures too I've taken quite a few 1042 00:40:00,589 --> 00:39:57,540 pictures and gone to Google Earth and 1043 00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:00,599 done my best to get an idea and a gauge 1044 00:40:04,730 --> 00:40:03,060 of what that area is like there's lots 1045 00:40:06,290 --> 00:40:04,740 of people from all trails and online 1046 00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:06,300 have different pictures of the area 1047 00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:08,700 which is strange because it gets 1048 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,520 explored a lot so you know if there was 1049 00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:13,200 something secret going up there as well 1050 00:40:16,010 --> 00:40:15,060 like going on up there as well people 1051 00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:16,020 will 1052 00:40:20,329 --> 00:40:17,520 probably would have seen something 1053 00:40:22,490 --> 00:40:20,339 because there's 30 or 40 hikers that 1054 00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:22,500 Summit that mountain every day when the 1055 00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:24,420 weather is good so I can't imagine that 1056 00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,920 you know the military is going to set up 1057 00:40:30,530 --> 00:40:27,839 some secret entrance to a base on top of 1058 00:40:32,089 --> 00:40:30,540 the mountain right there either so when 1059 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,099 you think about it I'm trying to be I'm 1060 00:40:35,329 --> 00:40:33,839 trying to be smart about it because a 1061 00:40:37,069 --> 00:40:35,339 lot of it if you just take it up front 1062 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:37,079 doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's 1063 00:40:42,170 --> 00:40:39,180 something that they want it to be seen 1064 00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:42,180 but I don't know man at this point I'm 1065 00:40:47,810 --> 00:40:44,760 blown away either way I'm just hoping 1066 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,820 that between what I'm doing here and 1067 00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,680 maybe getting this out and having 1068 00:40:53,150 --> 00:40:51,599 people's ears hear it and you know 1069 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:53,160 networked it out there that maybe we can 1070 00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,660 get some more information and some more 1071 00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:57,599 data because the experiences that I me 1072 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:59,040 and my mother in our neighbor her 1073 00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,720 neighbor had were just absolutely 1074 00:41:03,950 --> 00:41:02,400 unbelievable man and I just kind of want 1075 00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:03,960 some answers at this point because it's 1076 00:41:07,849 --> 00:41:06,000 it's been a long process it's it's been 1077 00:41:09,470 --> 00:41:07,859 kind of traumatic in a lot of ways man 1078 00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:09,480 when we saw that stuff I didn't sleep 1079 00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:10,500 for 1080 00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:16,859 was two weeks after that like on and off 1081 00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:18,480 she couldn't sleep at night she kept 1082 00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:20,760 telling me weird stuff like she was 1083 00:41:24,349 --> 00:41:22,320 seeing kids that didn't look like kids 1084 00:41:27,470 --> 00:41:24,359 outside of her window at night 1085 00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:27,480 all kinds of craziness man and I that 1086 00:41:31,370 --> 00:41:29,760 part even I was like yeah Mom you're 1087 00:41:33,890 --> 00:41:31,380 probably just sleep deprived you know 1088 00:41:36,170 --> 00:41:33,900 but at the same time that's really weird 1089 00:41:37,310 --> 00:41:36,180 like in the month after this happened we 1090 00:41:39,650 --> 00:41:37,320 were having like 1091 00:41:40,970 --> 00:41:39,660 red lights like I don't know how to 1092 00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:40,980 explain this like 1093 00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:43,320 like red lights in our rooms 1094 00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:46,260 so I'd call her and she'd have a red 1095 00:41:50,089 --> 00:41:48,599 light in her room at night like floating 1096 00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:50,099 around in her room and I had the same 1097 00:41:53,170 --> 00:41:51,599 thing happen where I'd wake up a couple 1098 00:41:55,370 --> 00:41:53,180 of nights and there'd be this red 1099 00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:55,380 squishy ball looking thing floating 1100 00:41:58,430 --> 00:41:57,000 around my room and I 1101 00:42:00,410 --> 00:41:58,440 I can't tell you what it is I searched 1102 00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:00,420 my whole house and there was nothing 1103 00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,160 there every time there was no one in the 1104 00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:04,079 house it's just a weird paranormal 1105 00:42:07,609 --> 00:42:06,119 phenomena that surrounded this incident 1106 00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:07,619 and I don't know if 1107 00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:11,280 you know any of it had to do somehow 1108 00:42:16,849 --> 00:42:14,579 with observing that thing but every time 1109 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,859 I've had every time I've had an 1110 00:42:20,990 --> 00:42:18,720 experience of one of these 1111 00:42:22,810 --> 00:42:21,000 UFOs uaps or whatever you want to call 1112 00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:22,820 them there's always 1113 00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,160 strangeness that follows around it like 1114 00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:28,079 things are always strange around it and 1115 00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:29,460 I don't know 1116 00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,339 if that's you know a localized effect 1117 00:42:38,930 --> 00:42:35,040 that has something to do with perception 1118 00:42:42,770 --> 00:42:38,940 or what it is but there was a lot of 1119 00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:42,780 sensory uh inundation that was going on 1120 00:42:47,630 --> 00:42:45,359 in all of these experiences as well so 1121 00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:47,640 like you know you'd have like these 1122 00:42:51,710 --> 00:42:49,800 orange clouds you'd have you'd have what 1123 00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,720 look to be like chaff and the periphery 1124 00:42:54,109 --> 00:42:53,280 of your vision when you'd see this thing 1125 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,119 like 1126 00:42:57,770 --> 00:42:55,920 and that happened both times as well 1127 00:42:59,390 --> 00:42:57,780 like so I don't I don't really know if 1128 00:43:01,730 --> 00:42:59,400 that's a personal thing for me or if 1129 00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:01,740 it's something that's 1130 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:04,079 taken from observing whatever you're 1131 00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:05,760 observing but I know there's got to be 1132 00:43:09,170 --> 00:43:07,140 other people that have felt these things 1133 00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:09,180 too and that's why I'm interested to see 1134 00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,319 because 1135 00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:12,480 my experience it was like a it was a 1136 00:43:16,609 --> 00:43:15,300 full body thing and if that happened to 1137 00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,619 me it happened to the other people that 1138 00:43:20,569 --> 00:43:18,240 saw it so if there's any listeners from 1139 00:43:22,670 --> 00:43:20,579 Salt Lake you guys please call in like 1140 00:43:25,010 --> 00:43:22,680 if you you or anyone you know has any 1141 00:43:27,710 --> 00:43:25,020 ever talked about this please say 1142 00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,720 something I I can put my on social media 1143 00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:29,280 but I can give you guys my email you 1144 00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,680 guys can email me like I just I want to 1145 00:43:35,390 --> 00:43:33,119 get something going with this because I 1146 00:43:37,609 --> 00:43:35,400 feel like uh we can get some answers or 1147 00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:37,619 at least get the base to talk about it 1148 00:43:42,050 --> 00:43:39,839 it'll make me feel a lot better about 1149 00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:42,060 the whole situation that in a sense 1150 00:43:46,490 --> 00:43:43,980 needs some closure if that makes any 1151 00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:46,500 sense yeah like to this whole thing just 1152 00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:48,660 yeah it's it's been quite crazy it's 1153 00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,700 been a it's been a roller coaster 1154 00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:52,800 um so yeah I'm just I'm just hoping I 1155 00:43:57,050 --> 00:43:54,060 can get up there and do you know the 1156 00:44:00,290 --> 00:43:57,060 most investigation I can I'm gonna this 1157 00:44:01,309 --> 00:44:00,300 weekend probably Saturday or Sunday 1158 00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:01,319 I shouldn't have said that on the 1159 00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:02,000 podcast 1160 00:44:07,849 --> 00:44:05,640 I'm gonna go up there and uh see what I 1161 00:44:09,410 --> 00:44:07,859 can do about just checking out the area 1162 00:44:12,290 --> 00:44:09,420 I'm gonna hike to the summit I'm going 1163 00:44:14,089 --> 00:44:12,300 to go to the Saddleback uh behind it and 1164 00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:14,099 see what's going on back there and see 1165 00:44:18,349 --> 00:44:15,960 if I see any weirdness I'd like to get 1166 00:44:21,230 --> 00:44:18,359 some equipment up there but that's 1167 00:44:23,390 --> 00:44:21,240 something that has to be planned out 1168 00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:23,400 but there's there's so many options man 1169 00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:24,960 and there's so much weirdness that goes 1170 00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,940 on in all these mountains so I'm just 1171 00:44:30,109 --> 00:44:28,560 going to continue this if this if 1172 00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:30,119 there's anyone out there that has seen 1173 00:44:34,849 --> 00:44:33,000 this stuff let let Ryan or me know and 1174 00:44:36,890 --> 00:44:34,859 I'd love to just you know get some 1175 00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,900 investigations going you get up there 1176 00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:38,400 and actually maybe find some answers to 1177 00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:39,660 this stuff because people aren't talking 1178 00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:41,280 and they need to talk 1179 00:44:47,690 --> 00:44:45,180 no man and it does seem as if 1180 00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:47,700 a lot of these things are hidden in 1181 00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:50,040 plain sight I'm glad you mentioned uh 1182 00:44:56,930 --> 00:44:53,520 Stephen Greer because and ce5 because 1183 00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,940 you know there is a ton going on with 1184 00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:59,040 him as well we have of course NASA 1185 00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:00,720 coming out as you said 1186 00:45:05,150 --> 00:45:03,060 with uh never a straight answer and then 1187 00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:05,160 we have 1188 00:45:10,370 --> 00:45:07,380 um Stephen Greer the founder of the 1189 00:45:14,210 --> 00:45:10,380 disclosure project and he's coming out 1190 00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:14,220 with all kinds of supposedly purportedly 1191 00:45:17,930 --> 00:45:15,599 uh 1192 00:45:21,470 --> 00:45:17,940 amazing unacknowledged black budget 1193 00:45:22,849 --> 00:45:21,480 projects and whistleblowers who have 1194 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,859 been granted 1195 00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:25,200 that ability to whistle blow and not 1196 00:45:29,870 --> 00:45:27,540 deal with the repercussions supposedly 1197 00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:29,880 and I know a few of those whistleblowers 1198 00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,040 but the stuff they're talking about is 1199 00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,560 crazy and like you're saying it's it's 1200 00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:36,960 pretty compelling like the stuff that 1201 00:45:41,569 --> 00:45:39,540 they claim is taking place in broad 1202 00:45:43,550 --> 00:45:41,579 daylight and to be completely honest 1203 00:45:45,470 --> 00:45:43,560 with you this stuff happens and the 1204 00:45:48,650 --> 00:45:45,480 majority of the population does nothing 1205 00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:48,660 about it Josh the most interesting thing 1206 00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:51,000 happened to me about a year and a half 1207 00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:51,960 ago 1208 00:45:58,670 --> 00:45:54,720 and my neighbor across the street saw it 1209 00:46:00,650 --> 00:45:58,680 and she's a nurse and basically you know 1210 00:46:02,210 --> 00:46:00,660 after we saw it she said oh that was 1211 00:46:04,030 --> 00:46:02,220 interesting and she went in her house I 1212 00:46:06,290 --> 00:46:04,040 was like wait a minute 1213 00:46:08,990 --> 00:46:06,300 you know it was 1214 00:46:12,589 --> 00:46:09,000 and it again was something hanging from 1215 00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:12,599 a helicopter it looked very similar to a 1216 00:46:19,790 --> 00:46:17,220 black ball emitting purple smoke and you 1217 00:46:22,130 --> 00:46:19,800 know it was huge it was like the size of 1218 00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,140 a small smart car and it looked like one 1219 00:46:25,730 --> 00:46:24,000 of those things you give like a you know 1220 00:46:28,670 --> 00:46:25,740 like kids on the fourth of July those 1221 00:46:32,329 --> 00:46:28,680 smoke bombs but getting back to getting 1222 00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:32,339 back to these tunnels and the 1223 00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:33,960 possibility of these tunnels being 1224 00:46:39,770 --> 00:46:37,200 involved Ferguson Canyon by the way very 1225 00:46:42,530 --> 00:46:39,780 interesting place I had 1226 00:46:45,710 --> 00:46:42,540 um it's for people that have not been 1227 00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:45,720 there right it's got a Vibe all its own 1228 00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:47,400 I've always been drawn to that Canyon 1229 00:46:51,050 --> 00:46:48,839 man I don't know what it is and that's 1230 00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:51,060 another weird aspect of this whole thing 1231 00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:53,220 at least for me personally is I've ever 1232 00:46:56,270 --> 00:46:54,720 since we used to so we used to go up 1233 00:46:57,710 --> 00:46:56,280 there I grew up here my whole life and I 1234 00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,720 used to go up there as kids kids go up 1235 00:47:00,589 --> 00:46:59,520 there and they get stoned well the kids 1236 00:47:03,109 --> 00:47:00,599 go up there and they get high that's 1237 00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,119 what they do uh and I we used to go up 1238 00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:05,760 when I was you know 14 15 16 and we'd go 1239 00:47:10,970 --> 00:47:07,680 go up there and smoke weed like 1240 00:47:14,270 --> 00:47:10,980 teenagers and uh I ever since I started 1241 00:47:16,190 --> 00:47:14,280 there dude I just could never stop going 1242 00:47:18,290 --> 00:47:16,200 there or being drawn to it and it's the 1243 00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,300 geology of that Canyon specifically as 1244 00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:20,640 opposed to others just in the direct you 1245 00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:22,380 know localized area is it's a little 1246 00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:23,400 different 1247 00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:25,920 um just just the way that it's I guess 1248 00:47:29,690 --> 00:47:27,960 the crust has come up there the way the 1249 00:47:30,650 --> 00:47:29,700 you know the sand is eroded off the tops 1250 00:47:32,809 --> 00:47:30,660 of The Fountains because you have a mix 1251 00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:32,819 of like sandstone and granite there in a 1252 00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:35,400 strange mix and you've got the stream 1253 00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:38,160 from the runoff coming down especially 1254 00:47:44,089 --> 00:47:40,740 right now and massive quantities down 1255 00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:44,099 the canyon which just it just makes for 1256 00:47:48,589 --> 00:47:46,560 this weird energy in the area and it's 1257 00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:48,599 it's hard to explain unless you go down 1258 00:47:51,950 --> 00:47:50,880 there but it feels great and at the 1259 00:47:53,809 --> 00:47:51,960 moment 1260 00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:53,819 there is so much quartz coming out of 1261 00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,380 there like the runoff stream right now 1262 00:47:58,910 --> 00:47:56,880 because we've had so much precipitation 1263 00:48:01,069 --> 00:47:58,920 and so much snow this last morning the 1264 00:48:02,690 --> 00:48:01,079 stream itself is just shooting like a 1265 00:48:04,130 --> 00:48:02,700 rocket man you can put your hands 1266 00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:04,140 straight into the stream there what's on 1267 00:48:09,290 --> 00:48:07,380 the street it's a river you can put your 1268 00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,300 hand in there and literally just pull 1269 00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:11,520 your hand down have courts sitting on 1270 00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:15,660 your hand like there's so much of it 1271 00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:17,760 yeah Ferguson's Ferguson's really great 1272 00:48:22,490 --> 00:48:20,520 with tunnel systems man I I've Heard 1273 00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:22,500 lots of stories about the ones downtown 1274 00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:25,800 I know they built tunnel systems under 1275 00:48:31,250 --> 00:48:29,400 the temple and two Banks I can't 1276 00:48:32,349 --> 00:48:31,260 remember exactly what year this was done 1277 00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,359 it was 1278 00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:35,280 1800s somewhere in late 1800s but all 1279 00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:36,720 these tunnels were dug and I think they 1280 00:48:41,569 --> 00:48:39,119 just continued those complexes because I 1281 00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:41,579 know lots of people I actually work with 1282 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,140 one guy right now and I've known two 1283 00:48:47,450 --> 00:48:44,880 others in the past that have all gone 1284 00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:47,460 down there and done different kinds of 1285 00:48:51,710 --> 00:48:49,619 jobs Underground 1286 00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:51,720 downtown and there's so much 1287 00:48:56,329 --> 00:48:53,760 infrastructure down there it's insane I 1288 00:48:58,910 --> 00:48:56,339 used to live down 1289 00:49:02,809 --> 00:48:58,920 right across from the launch down there 1290 00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:02,819 the uh the Mason launch and it's 1291 00:49:06,589 --> 00:49:04,260 interesting because you walk down these 1292 00:49:09,650 --> 00:49:06,599 temple they're downtown and you can see 1293 00:49:10,849 --> 00:49:09,660 some of the the lock doors for some of 1294 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,859 these tunnel entrances it's really 1295 00:49:15,530 --> 00:49:12,480 insane and they're they're everywhere 1296 00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:15,540 and they're obviously not accessible I 1297 00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,800 don't know if they're guarded in some 1298 00:49:21,710 --> 00:49:18,480 spots I've just heard stories of that 1299 00:49:25,069 --> 00:49:21,720 but I have heard stories of essentially 1300 00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:25,079 like giant command centers under the 1301 00:49:30,650 --> 00:49:27,540 temple in the tunnel uh the different 1302 00:49:32,690 --> 00:49:30,660 people that I know have seen and uh 1303 00:49:34,250 --> 00:49:32,700 witnessed under there I had a 1304 00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:34,260 friend that I've talked to that said 1305 00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:36,000 that he was headed to do some work down 1306 00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:37,859 there and walk through a hallway where 1307 00:49:42,589 --> 00:49:41,160 he sudden saw tons of monitors that what 1308 00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:42,599 seemed to be like lots of different 1309 00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:45,119 countries and places around the world uh 1310 00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,619 and what looked to be a command center 1311 00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:48,240 with a bunch of people manning these 1312 00:49:51,470 --> 00:49:49,859 computers and these monitors and he said 1313 00:49:53,150 --> 00:49:51,480 it was a few years before they had big 1314 00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:53,160 screens like that too which was really 1315 00:49:56,569 --> 00:49:55,020 strange to go in so that's just the 1316 00:50:01,370 --> 00:49:56,579 story it's just hearsay but there's 1317 00:50:04,550 --> 00:50:02,750 yeah I mean 1318 00:50:06,530 --> 00:50:04,560 I mean one white crows one thing two 1319 00:50:08,089 --> 00:50:06,540 white crows you know that's another but 1320 00:50:09,650 --> 00:50:08,099 we got like piles and piles of people 1321 00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:09,660 saying the same thing 1322 00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,640 it can't be for no reason there's always 1323 00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:13,920 got to be some chronic Les and that's 1324 00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,200 that's where I try to plug 1325 00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:18,240 yeah that is a little farther and be 1326 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,460 like all right well what really is going 1327 00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:23,280 it's my backyard I love this place I 1328 00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:26,040 just want to make sure that there isn't 1329 00:50:30,349 --> 00:50:28,260 various sorry about pardon my language 1330 00:50:32,510 --> 00:50:30,359 but nefarious [\h__\h] going on in my 1331 00:50:35,390 --> 00:50:32,520 backyard we got another bag going on 1332 00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:35,400 we don't need like super government you 1333 00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:38,220 know secret Tech being exposed in front 1334 00:50:42,530 --> 00:50:39,900 of the mountains right here I mean God 1335 00:50:44,030 --> 00:50:42,540 if somebody's Grandma saw that be 1336 00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:44,040 surprised if she had a damn heart attack 1337 00:50:48,109 --> 00:50:45,660 on the spot man we 1338 00:50:49,790 --> 00:50:48,119 it's uh it's pretty insane so it's like 1339 00:50:51,890 --> 00:50:49,800 you know I want to do some research from 1340 00:50:54,049 --> 00:50:51,900 the Salt Lake and just see what's going 1341 00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,059 on here because there's so many secrets 1342 00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,119 the dugway itself I mean oh Dave Rosen 1343 00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:00,720 felt that's his last name right yeah 1344 00:51:04,609 --> 00:51:02,700 that's what I thought anyway 1345 00:51:06,770 --> 00:51:04,619 um yeah his stuff some of the stuff he's 1346 00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:06,780 seen man it's just absolutely insane 1347 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:09,119 like the laser beam photos the Apache 1348 00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,660 the the Apache video I I show people 1349 00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:14,640 that video sometimes and they don't even 1350 00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:15,720 know what to think of it they're like 1351 00:51:19,309 --> 00:51:17,040 this is really the military doing this 1352 00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,319 I'm like apparently like the guy's out 1353 00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:21,119 at dugway they they do not joke around 1354 00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:22,380 and 1355 00:51:26,270 --> 00:51:24,900 play I've heard some of the stories 1356 00:51:27,890 --> 00:51:26,280 about them you know accidentally 1357 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:27,900 releasing viruses and things like that 1358 00:51:31,970 --> 00:51:30,240 in the past that got into the news a few 1359 00:51:33,530 --> 00:51:31,980 years ago it just makes you wonder 1360 00:51:36,170 --> 00:51:33,540 sometimes it feels like a lot of the 1361 00:51:38,329 --> 00:51:36,180 stuff really is uh for our consumption 1362 00:51:40,190 --> 00:51:38,339 and especially stuff that's in broad 1363 00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,200 daylight in the middle of the day and 1364 00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:42,480 that's really no other sense besides the 1365 00:51:45,290 --> 00:51:44,040 fact that they they wanted somebody to 1366 00:51:47,210 --> 00:51:45,300 know and 1367 00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:47,220 I'm starting to wonder if maybe that was 1368 00:51:51,049 --> 00:51:48,839 just part of this disclosure drip they 1369 00:51:53,809 --> 00:51:51,059 were talking about you know maybe 1370 00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:53,819 I I don't think that this whole effort 1371 00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,460 as far as you know revealing uaps in 1372 00:52:02,990 --> 00:51:58,319 this UFO Tech to the public I don't 1373 00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,000 think it's a monolithic uh a monolithic 1374 00:52:07,370 --> 00:52:05,520 effort it's definitely not it may seem 1375 00:52:10,010 --> 00:52:07,380 like that up front but you know if 1376 00:52:12,049 --> 00:52:10,020 Stephen Greer I feel like people 1377 00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:12,059 see what they say about him but I feel 1378 00:52:16,190 --> 00:52:14,040 like the way he addresses the topic and 1379 00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:16,200 how he explains it is very realistic and 1380 00:52:19,609 --> 00:52:18,240 it makes a lot of sense that there's you 1381 00:52:21,530 --> 00:52:19,619 know different factions there's 1382 00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:21,540 different agendas there's different 1383 00:52:25,549 --> 00:52:23,880 people involved in getting this Tech out 1384 00:52:28,130 --> 00:52:25,559 and a lot of people think it's this 1385 00:52:29,930 --> 00:52:28,140 monolithic you know organization the 1386 00:52:32,569 --> 00:52:29,940 government that's doing all this and 1387 00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:32,579 it's it's really not it's there's a lot 1388 00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:34,020 of different people that want a lot of 1389 00:52:39,049 --> 00:52:37,260 different things and I'm just I'm really 1390 00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:39,059 excited I just I think the Paradigm is 1391 00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:41,040 changing I just want to kind of get 1392 00:52:45,049 --> 00:52:42,480 people talking about this kind of stuff 1393 00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:45,059 more and stop being so afraid to you 1394 00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:46,559 know say what you feel because there's a 1395 00:52:49,549 --> 00:52:48,000 lot of weird stuff that happens that is 1396 00:52:52,490 --> 00:52:49,559 real and you know about it I know about 1397 00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:52,500 it and I've seen studies and some of the 1398 00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,000 places I've read where they're saying 1399 00:52:57,410 --> 00:52:56,160 like one in 10 people have witnessed 1400 00:52:59,329 --> 00:52:57,420 things like this they just don't talk 1401 00:53:00,849 --> 00:52:59,339 about it that's a huge percentage of the 1402 00:53:03,950 --> 00:53:00,859 population man 1403 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,960 it's a lot of people so at this point 1404 00:53:08,210 --> 00:53:06,000 you know like if we just talk about it 1405 00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:08,220 and kind of start getting the word out 1406 00:53:11,690 --> 00:53:09,900 there about these things I'm hoping that 1407 00:53:14,510 --> 00:53:11,700 more people will be comfortable because 1408 00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:14,520 people come to me now but it's still 1409 00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:16,079 pretty rarely it's more than it used to 1410 00:53:19,069 --> 00:53:17,579 be but I still get really cool stories 1411 00:53:20,690 --> 00:53:19,079 that people will tell me usually on a 1412 00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:20,700 weekly basis about something I've seen 1413 00:53:25,250 --> 00:53:23,819 so I like being that person it's cool 1414 00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:25,260 like I you know I don't care if I get 1415 00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:27,180 labeled crazy it's cool being able to 1416 00:53:30,109 --> 00:53:28,319 hear these stories from people and 1417 00:53:31,790 --> 00:53:30,119 having people trust you with you know 1418 00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:31,800 know stuff 1419 00:53:36,589 --> 00:53:33,300 because essentially turned their lives 1420 00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,599 upside down so it's interesting and this 1421 00:53:40,730 --> 00:53:38,400 stuff this stuff does kind of have that 1422 00:53:42,530 --> 00:53:40,740 effect on people I remember a friend of 1423 00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:42,540 mine who started working for a company 1424 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:45,900 named Osmos he was running cable for 1425 00:53:50,030 --> 00:53:48,480 miles and miles in some of these vaults 1426 00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:50,040 that you have talked about that are 1427 00:53:55,250 --> 00:53:52,380 connected to the church and he said 1428 00:53:57,470 --> 00:53:55,260 that he believed there was a bit more 1429 00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:57,480 going on as well just because it was 1430 00:54:03,770 --> 00:54:00,240 miles and miles in a golf cart inside of 1431 00:54:08,410 --> 00:54:03,780 a mountain and you've you've sent me 1432 00:54:10,750 --> 00:54:08,420 some very interesting and curiosity 1433 00:54:13,609 --> 00:54:10,760 inducing photos 1434 00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:13,619 addresses and locations where there 1435 00:54:19,370 --> 00:54:16,800 seemed to be entrances or possibly 1436 00:54:20,930 --> 00:54:19,380 underground facilities can we hit upon 1437 00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:20,940 that real quick 1438 00:54:25,309 --> 00:54:23,160 yeah 1439 00:54:28,910 --> 00:54:25,319 one thing that this is the this is a 1440 00:54:31,730 --> 00:54:28,920 preliminary thing I am in no way saying 1441 00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:31,740 that what I sent you yeah you know if 1442 00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,260 people see this I don't know what it is 1443 00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:36,480 either but this is from two hours of 1444 00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,040 observation that's awesome weird stuff 1445 00:54:41,690 --> 00:54:40,079 out there um the coordinates I sent you 1446 00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:41,700 were from the spot that you can observe 1447 00:54:47,150 --> 00:54:44,640 from Ferguson Canyon so if you look down 1448 00:54:48,530 --> 00:54:47,160 into big Cottonwood Canyon uh the 1449 00:54:51,890 --> 00:54:48,540 interest of big Cottonwood Canyon you 1450 00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,900 you go about 300 feet or yards down on 1451 00:54:56,089 --> 00:54:53,280 your left side there will be a water 1452 00:54:58,130 --> 00:54:56,099 treatment plant right past that to guard 1453 00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,140 shack uh for a private neighborhood I 1454 00:55:02,089 --> 00:54:59,760 believe it's called Castle View or 1455 00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:02,099 Castle Gate Drive I'm probably wrong 1456 00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:03,300 about that 1457 00:55:08,030 --> 00:55:06,000 but it winds up the mountain towards the 1458 00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:08,040 base of the mountain and has uh quite a 1459 00:55:11,210 --> 00:55:09,839 few let's say about a dozen houses up 1460 00:55:12,829 --> 00:55:11,220 there that have been built they're all 1461 00:55:15,890 --> 00:55:12,839 really strange looking they kind of seem 1462 00:55:18,049 --> 00:55:15,900 out of place uh very expensive houses 1463 00:55:19,549 --> 00:55:18,059 um interestingly enough there's a rogue 1464 00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,559 at the back of these houses in this 1465 00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,599 neighborhood so if you wind your way to 1466 00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,280 the back there's another smaller road 1467 00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:24,960 that leads off to the base of the 1468 00:55:27,470 --> 00:55:25,680 mountain 1469 00:55:30,589 --> 00:55:27,480 the picture I sent you was from Google 1470 00:55:33,470 --> 00:55:30,599 Google Earth or Google Maps and what's 1471 00:55:35,690 --> 00:55:33,480 interesting is if you look at this spot 1472 00:55:37,609 --> 00:55:35,700 it could just be a state you know it 1473 00:55:39,650 --> 00:55:37,619 could just be a state door it could be 1474 00:55:41,089 --> 00:55:39,660 leading off into something innocuous 1475 00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,099 which is probably the case but 1476 00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:43,200 considering what I've seen here in this 1477 00:55:47,089 --> 00:55:45,119 area and other investigations people 1478 00:55:48,770 --> 00:55:47,099 have done and all the here say you put 1479 00:55:50,510 --> 00:55:48,780 it all together there's got to be 1480 00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,520 entrances into this place somewhere so 1481 00:55:55,849 --> 00:55:52,319 I'd imagine this door might be one 1482 00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,859 anyway this door uh it's looking it 1483 00:56:00,650 --> 00:55:58,319 looks to be metal obviously it's got a 1484 00:56:02,030 --> 00:56:00,660 box next to it there's pipes coming out 1485 00:56:05,150 --> 00:56:02,040 of the uh 1486 00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:05,160 I guess out of the ground uh behind the 1487 00:56:09,890 --> 00:56:07,040 door so essentially it leads into a room 1488 00:56:11,630 --> 00:56:09,900 uh that has looked to be air ventilation 1489 00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:11,640 pipes coming out of it but the strange 1490 00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:13,079 thing that I really don't understand is 1491 00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:15,119 the road keeps going after you hit the 1492 00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:18,240 door and it curves up around onto the 1493 00:56:22,609 --> 00:56:21,300 roof of this uh room essentially that's 1494 00:56:25,370 --> 00:56:22,619 in the mountain 1495 00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:25,380 and it looks to be maybe not reinforced 1496 00:56:29,089 --> 00:56:27,180 but they've perished the land right 1497 00:56:31,309 --> 00:56:29,099 there around that curve so it looks like 1498 00:56:33,470 --> 00:56:31,319 it's meant to take weight like it needed 1499 00:56:35,569 --> 00:56:33,480 it needs to take away and I would guess 1500 00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:35,579 pretty frequently if they spent the 1501 00:56:39,470 --> 00:56:37,200 money to put you know a terrorist 1502 00:56:41,569 --> 00:56:39,480 retaining wall there so this is the 1503 00:56:43,130 --> 00:56:41,579 theory but I've seen guys pull up in 1504 00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:43,140 that truck talk to the box and walk in 1505 00:56:47,569 --> 00:56:45,599 so I'm wondering if maybe there's 1506 00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,579 something going on right there too as 1507 00:56:50,210 --> 00:56:48,960 maybe that's an entrance to one of these 1508 00:56:52,250 --> 00:56:50,220 things because 1509 00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:52,260 I mean strategically from the Strategic 1510 00:56:57,710 --> 00:56:55,680 perspective it's behind a locked gate 1511 00:56:59,930 --> 00:56:57,720 and a neighborhood at the back of the 1512 00:57:02,270 --> 00:56:59,940 neighborhood behind another locked door 1513 00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:02,280 inside of a mountain that has had a 1514 00:57:07,010 --> 00:57:03,839 bunch of weird stuff happening on top of 1515 00:57:09,650 --> 00:57:07,020 it so I mean yeah I feel like it's a 1516 00:57:12,049 --> 00:57:09,660 good first it's a good first exploration 1517 00:57:13,730 --> 00:57:12,059 I'm that's the first thing I noticed I'm 1518 00:57:16,130 --> 00:57:13,740 gonna go farther up into the canyon this 1519 00:57:17,450 --> 00:57:16,140 week on our weekend and see what I can 1520 00:57:19,130 --> 00:57:17,460 find but yeah this is a very strange 1521 00:57:20,990 --> 00:57:19,140 find and I don't you know it could like 1522 00:57:23,450 --> 00:57:21,000 Occam's Razer it could probably just be 1523 00:57:25,790 --> 00:57:23,460 something innocuous but I need to 1524 00:57:27,530 --> 00:57:25,800 research I work seven days a week so I 1525 00:57:31,130 --> 00:57:27,540 haven't had much time and I need to 1526 00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:31,140 research that spot in that door 1527 00:57:35,390 --> 00:57:33,000 specifically because I couldn't find 1528 00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:35,400 after a 20 minute look on Google I 1529 00:57:40,490 --> 00:57:38,160 couldn't really find much information I 1530 00:57:43,010 --> 00:57:40,500 tried a few different VPN search engines 1531 00:57:45,470 --> 00:57:43,020 didn't find anything else so I I don't 1532 00:57:47,630 --> 00:57:45,480 know man there's one Google Street View 1533 00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:47,640 picture from that spot and it looks to 1534 00:57:52,190 --> 00:57:49,680 be from a few years ago and the roof of 1535 00:57:54,829 --> 00:57:52,200 this room is fenced off 1536 00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:54,839 so I don't know yeah man it might like 1537 00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,760 you said it's it's probable that it's 1538 00:58:00,890 --> 00:57:59,280 nothing but on the other hand I mean 1539 00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:00,900 anything could happen up there I'm not 1540 00:58:05,210 --> 00:58:03,180 really sure at this point I mean there's 1541 00:58:07,010 --> 00:58:05,220 there's some pretty cool stuff happening 1542 00:58:08,750 --> 00:58:07,020 and uh I'm gonna get a drone here pretty 1543 00:58:10,730 --> 00:58:08,760 soon hopefully I can get some footage uh 1544 00:58:12,829 --> 00:58:10,740 with that thing too because there's a 1545 00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:12,839 lot of really inaccessible territory up 1546 00:58:17,210 --> 00:58:15,000 there really inaccessible here's almost 1547 00:58:18,890 --> 00:58:17,220 a thousand feet uh the top of both these 1548 00:58:20,990 --> 00:58:18,900 mountains that's just inaccessible for 1549 00:58:24,290 --> 00:58:21,000 one or both sides so 1550 00:58:26,329 --> 00:58:24,300 you need some uh robotic gear for that 1551 00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:26,339 well as we wrap up here I definitely 1552 00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:28,319 want to talk to you again I love the 1553 00:58:32,270 --> 00:58:29,760 stuff you're doing I love how you're 1554 00:58:34,609 --> 00:58:32,280 always in these locations above the city 1555 00:58:37,849 --> 00:58:34,619 checking out what I consider very 1556 00:58:39,710 --> 00:58:37,859 magical mountain range the Wasatch and 1557 00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:39,720 lastly 1558 00:58:45,049 --> 00:58:42,960 as far as the Consciousness aspect and 1559 00:58:46,670 --> 00:58:45,059 you mentioned the Nimitz and how these 1560 00:58:50,569 --> 00:58:46,680 things have a way of 1561 00:58:53,450 --> 00:58:50,579 kind of uh getting into our minds do you 1562 00:58:55,250 --> 00:58:53,460 believe that Consciousness is the answer 1563 00:58:57,049 --> 00:58:55,260 to a lot of these questions like are we 1564 00:58:59,329 --> 00:58:57,059 alone in the universe what's our purpose 1565 00:59:03,230 --> 00:58:59,339 why are we here 1566 00:59:05,329 --> 00:59:03,240 I think so yeah I mean it seems I think 1567 00:59:07,069 --> 00:59:05,339 if you look long enough I think everyone 1568 00:59:09,410 --> 00:59:07,079 finds that at some point that everything 1569 00:59:11,809 --> 00:59:09,420 is connected everything is consciousness 1570 00:59:13,549 --> 00:59:11,819 whether you believe in God whether it 1571 00:59:15,650 --> 00:59:13,559 doesn't matter what you believe in I 1572 00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:15,660 think at the end of the day we're all 1573 00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:18,180 believing in the same one the same grit 1574 00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:19,920 the same Consciousness the same ether 1575 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:23,520 you know the the same creating mind that 1576 00:59:28,370 --> 00:59:26,400 we co-create with on a daily basis so I 1577 00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:28,380 yeah I'd say it's all Consciousness man 1578 00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:31,280 and I'd I'd say these Technologies 1579 00:59:37,849 --> 00:59:35,760 have a large aspect of having to deal 1580 00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:37,859 with Consciousness uh there's probably a 1581 00:59:42,109 --> 00:59:39,839 large aspect of them that 1582 00:59:44,990 --> 00:59:42,119 Tech into our Consciousness in some way 1583 00:59:48,289 --> 00:59:45,000 which is cool and uh yeah I think 1584 00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,299 everything is related to our perception 1585 00:59:52,730 --> 00:59:51,119 and our reality obviously but there's 1586 00:59:54,170 --> 00:59:52,740 something that connects us all and there 1587 00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:54,180 is a veil 1588 00:59:58,970 --> 00:59:55,500 um a lot of people have had different 1589 01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:58,980 experiences with it but there's more to 1590 01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:01,680 this life than we give it credit for 1591 01:00:06,109 --> 01:00:03,359 it's a lot weirder than we get to give 1592 01:00:07,789 --> 01:00:06,119 the credit for sometimes and uh is 1593 01:00:09,289 --> 01:00:07,799 anybody listening to this just you know 1594 01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:09,299 look into yourselves ask questions 1595 01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:10,559 because that's that's the problem 1596 01:00:15,170 --> 01:00:13,200 nowadays is I I feel like people not 1597 01:00:17,450 --> 01:00:15,180 enough people ask enough questions 1598 01:00:18,890 --> 01:00:17,460 anymore it's not as many questions 1599 01:00:20,809 --> 01:00:18,900 getting asked from just through your 1600 01:00:23,089 --> 01:00:20,819 regular everyday everyday job that I 1601 01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:23,099 that I meet on the street and uh 1602 01:00:26,450 --> 01:00:24,660 I'm just hoping that maybe thinking 1603 01:00:28,190 --> 01:00:26,460 about these kinds of things you know 1604 01:00:29,630 --> 01:00:28,200 will help to level us up in a way 1605 01:00:31,309 --> 01:00:29,640 because 1606 01:00:34,190 --> 01:00:31,319 I do feel like these kind of things are 1607 01:00:36,109 --> 01:00:34,200 Consciousness strips in a way so I'm 1608 01:00:38,210 --> 01:00:36,119 hoping that you know enough people get 1609 01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:38,220 this kind of information that we can get 1610 01:00:42,349 --> 01:00:40,319 to a place where we can all Advance as a 1611 01:00:43,130 --> 01:00:42,359 civilization later on down the road I 1612 01:00:46,010 --> 01:00:43,140 mean 1613 01:00:48,049 --> 01:00:46,020 obviously it's a it's a pretty steep 1614 01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:48,059 ramp that we're climbing right now but 1615 01:00:51,890 --> 01:00:50,640 hopefully all the stuff that you talked 1616 01:00:53,390 --> 01:00:51,900 about in your show and all these 1617 01:00:55,010 --> 01:00:53,400 different forms of media that are coming 1618 01:00:57,530 --> 01:00:55,020 out and exposing people to different 1619 01:00:59,809 --> 01:00:57,540 topics and in more diverse kinds of 1620 01:01:01,609 --> 01:00:59,819 information I think it has a huge effect 1621 01:01:03,650 --> 01:01:01,619 and I'm hoping it has an even bigger 1622 01:01:06,109 --> 01:01:03,660 effect in the future 1623 01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:06,119 um I just people spread love everyone 1624 01:01:10,730 --> 01:01:09,119 love each other because just don't Don't 1625 01:01:12,349 --> 01:01:10,740 Be Afraid of Anything everyone love each 1626 01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:12,359 other everything will be fine if you 1627 01:01:15,950 --> 01:01:13,920 just love each other and respect each 1628 01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:15,960 other just do your best to be a better 1629 01:01:19,870 --> 01:01:18,960 person every day and that's it Amen 1630 01:01:22,730 --> 01:01:19,880 brother 1631 01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,740 thanks so much elevated Josh for coming 1632 01:01:27,170 --> 01:01:24,960 on I hope to talk to you again soon I 1633 01:01:30,109 --> 01:01:27,180 hope some of the listeners reach out to 1634 01:01:32,990 --> 01:01:30,119 me I'll let you know what I find and 1635 01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:33,000 yeah let's let's talk soon and uh keep 1636 01:01:37,309 --> 01:01:35,520 grinding keep searching and exploring 1637 01:01:39,470 --> 01:01:37,319 I appreciate it man good talking to you 1638 01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:39,480 you have a good day stay safe 1639 01:01:46,250 --> 01:01:42,319 he is so great I love talking to Josh 1640 01:01:48,890 --> 01:01:46,260 elevated Josh the guy is out there 1641 01:01:50,510 --> 01:01:48,900 checking out exactly the type of things 1642 01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:50,520 that interest me 1643 01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:53,040 the intelligence Community sees the Utah 1644 01:01:59,770 --> 01:01:55,920 Valley in Salt Lake City as prime 1645 01:02:02,289 --> 01:01:59,780 hunting grounds for a variety of 1646 01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:02,299 aspects of what they do not only 1647 01:02:08,329 --> 01:02:05,520 searching for new agents but the 1648 01:02:12,530 --> 01:02:08,339 authorities on the UFO and UAP issue 1649 01:02:14,990 --> 01:02:12,540 also see it as a definitive location 1650 01:02:17,690 --> 01:02:15,000 to test and acknowledge black budget 1651 01:02:19,309 --> 01:02:17,700 projects over there at dugway Proving 1652 01:02:21,710 --> 01:02:19,319 Grounds and that's exactly what it is 1653 01:02:25,549 --> 01:02:21,720 it's a Proving Ground it is a place 1654 01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:25,559 where various contractors can go and 1655 01:02:31,970 --> 01:02:28,319 rent space for lack of a better word to 1656 01:02:35,390 --> 01:02:31,980 test their toys to test their black 1657 01:02:38,210 --> 01:02:35,400 budget projects and it's going to be 1658 01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:38,220 interesting that this compelling 1659 01:02:41,569 --> 01:02:39,599 testimony 1660 01:02:44,569 --> 01:02:41,579 which seems to be coming out of the 1661 01:02:47,569 --> 01:02:44,579 disclosure intelligence UFO archive 1662 01:02:49,690 --> 01:02:47,579 including whistleblowers one of them is 1663 01:02:52,490 --> 01:02:49,700 a marine who witnessed a man-made UAP 1664 01:02:55,609 --> 01:02:52,500 offloading illegal weapons and Drugs in 1665 01:02:58,130 --> 01:02:55,619 Indonesia in 2009 I know a few of the 1666 01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:58,140 whistleblowers another one who I know 1667 01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:00,960 personally is a gentleman who worked at 1668 01:03:05,809 --> 01:03:03,599 the South Pole at Antarctica he has 1669 01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:05,819 quite a bit of disclosure and these 1670 01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:08,880 testimonies at specific locations go 1671 01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:12,240 into the illegally operated UFO projects 1672 01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:13,920 and corporations 1673 01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:16,740 which are involved so 1674 01:03:22,849 --> 01:03:19,680 elevated Josh may not be far off when 1675 01:03:24,349 --> 01:03:22,859 you consider there are over 700 military 1676 01:03:27,530 --> 01:03:24,359 intelligence and corporate 1677 01:03:30,770 --> 01:03:27,540 whistleblowers in line to be included in 1678 01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:30,780 this vast archive and it's a big big 1679 01:03:36,950 --> 01:03:34,079 archive so let's see what happens we 1680 01:03:41,450 --> 01:03:36,960 also have NASA as he mentioned coming 1681 01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:41,460 out with some information uh Gary Nolan 1682 01:03:46,370 --> 01:03:44,160 Jeremy Corbell George Knapp the list of 1683 01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:46,380 people that are on this disclosure train 1684 01:03:52,250 --> 01:03:49,920 and coming out with Epic 1685 01:03:55,490 --> 01:03:52,260 fresh and fundamentally new information 1686 01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:55,500 is mind-blowing I really liked the 1687 01:04:00,530 --> 01:03:58,319 triangle craft over 1688 01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:00,540 a military base 1689 01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:02,880 in California which George Knapp and 1690 01:04:07,370 --> 01:04:04,920 Jeremy Corbell came out with although it 1691 01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:07,380 was a couple years old it just goes to 1692 01:04:11,450 --> 01:04:09,599 show how slow the government is in 1693 01:04:14,210 --> 01:04:11,460 releasing some of this stuff 1694 01:04:17,210 --> 01:04:14,220 for public consumption so when you're 1695 01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:17,220 able to talk to somebody like Josh and 1696 01:04:22,430 --> 01:04:18,960 he can give you the inside scoop of 1697 01:04:26,410 --> 01:04:22,440 what's going on on a daily basis out at 1698 01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:26,420 places like dugway and the Wasatch Front 1699 01:04:32,329 --> 01:04:30,240 you know I believe that's very important 1700 01:04:34,750 --> 01:04:32,339 to keep your hand on the pulse 1701 01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:34,760 of the investigations and explorations 1702 01:04:39,770 --> 01:04:37,440 of those who are involved especially 1703 01:04:41,329 --> 01:04:39,780 given the most recent information that 1704 01:04:44,270 --> 01:04:41,339 is coming across 1705 01:04:47,870 --> 01:04:44,280 the newswires my desk 1706 01:04:52,670 --> 01:04:47,880 and the airwaves every week and I 100 1707 01:04:55,730 --> 01:04:52,680 percent agree with elevated Josh in that 1708 01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:55,740 the information revolution will be 1709 01:05:01,789 --> 01:04:57,920 podcasted it's these 1710 01:05:04,490 --> 01:05:01,799 sideline news outlets Independent Media 1711 01:05:06,890 --> 01:05:04,500 organizations and individuals who are 1712 01:05:09,230 --> 01:05:06,900 making the biggest Leaps and Bounds 1713 01:05:13,130 --> 01:05:09,240 right now it's not CNN 1714 01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:13,140 NBC ABC these aren't the guys that are 1715 01:05:16,970 --> 01:05:15,119 bringing you the goods they get it 1716 01:05:20,690 --> 01:05:16,980 second third fourth and fifth hand 1717 01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:20,700 sometimes so very interesting my 1718 01:05:29,630 --> 01:05:25,920 curiosity is definitely induced 1719 01:05:32,690 --> 01:05:29,640 by the photos addresses and locations 1720 01:05:35,089 --> 01:05:32,700 which elevated Josh has sent me which 1721 01:05:37,069 --> 01:05:35,099 appear to be underground entrances or 1722 01:05:40,010 --> 01:05:37,079 facilities and there is a number of them 1723 01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:40,020 if any of our Utah Peeps are out there 1724 01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:42,000 exploring and have some information for 1725 01:05:47,049 --> 01:05:43,680 Josh or want to meet up with elevated 1726 01:05:50,510 --> 01:05:47,059 Josh please send me a message at 1727 01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:50,520 heroparanormal yahoo.com you can also 1728 01:05:55,849 --> 01:05:53,160 find hero paranormal on Facebook and 1729 01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:55,859 send a personal message there or you can 1730 01:06:00,109 --> 01:05:59,280 go to heroparanormal.com and contact me 1731 01:06:02,210 --> 01:06:00,119 there 1732 01:06:04,250 --> 01:06:02,220 I'll get the message to him 1733 01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,260 also real quick if you have not 1734 01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,480 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